Ge0rGLooks like we don't have an agenda this week. Also unfortunately Tedd got distracted from writing awesome meeting minutes.
moparisthebestI also have nothing this week for once, thanks jonas’ for getting that editor work done :)
jonas’we could achieve quorum tho
Ge0rGI'd like to bring up the inconsistencies I noticed while grepping the XEPs
danielI didn't realize it's Wednesday until this morning. However as far as I can tell there is nothing new to vote on and no pending votes. My plan was to formally get through the meeting but do it quickly. I'm not feeling very well
jonas’to be fair, until this morning it wasn't wednesday
Ge0rGwell played, jonas’
Ge0rGI don't mind postponing the XEP namespace shenanigans
danielok. i'll try to reach out to him. the week before that he mentioned he might be traveling
daniel2) Agenda bashing
Ge0rGThe agenda is good as is
danielcan’t bash an agenda that doesn’t exist
daniel3) editors update
jonas’the editor merged and published a few things
danieljonas’, published the two new xeps we voted on on. and all the obsoletions
jonas’may be worth looking at the deprecations and changes because of security issues
jonas’(^ that note for any onlookers, council is well aware I think)
daniel4) Items for voting
larmaHere now, sorry internet was gone
danielnothing new this week
daniel5) Pending votes
daniel6) Date of next
Ge0rGdaniel: it's your decision whether I should postpone or not.
jonas’+1w wfm fwiw
danielGe0rG, give me the cliff notes version so i can put it on next weeks agenda
Ge0rG(cross-pasting from yesterday xsf@)
Ge0rGSo I've done a bunch of grepping of XEPs for xmlns'es, and got some artifacts where I'm not sure if they are editorial or normative.
- https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0406.html#example-4 is using <pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/'> which is not the pubsub xmlns
- https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0105.html#example-1 is mixing /profile/ and /protocol/ in funny ways
- https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0087.html#example-4 is using xmlns='http://jabber.org/si' instead of /protocol/si/
- https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0072.html#example-8 is using xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/si-pub' and example 9 has /sipub
- https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0390.html mentions a non-existing /protocol/iqibb namespace
danielexamples are never normative
danielpurely judging from the urls
Ge0rGThe actual result of my greppage was https://op-co.de/tmp/namespacemap.txt which is an apache config for jabber.org to http redirect from an old-school namespace like http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#items to the respective XEP
larmabut they should be proper nonetheless
daniellarma, yes but it means we can just fix them
danielGe0rG, do you want to provide PRs for next week?
Ge0rGdaniel: I'd like to escalate that to people actually well-versed in the respective XEPs
Ge0rGI can do it by means of PRs and then somebody needs to ping the authors
Ge0rGbut maybe there is a more straight-forward way to it?
Ge0rGThis is what I wanted to discuss in council
Link MauveGe0rG, these changes are editorial, they don’t need to go through author nor council.
danielok. i'll put it on the agenda for next week. to me it just seems like fixing typos in examples that probably doesn’t even have to go through council
jonas’Ge0rG, '390 is not to be touched
jonas’in that regard
danielbut i'm fine discussing this in more detail next week
Ge0rGAlright, I can do PRs for the examples and see if anything remains
jonas’that one is an example taken from a database and changing it would involve changing the resulting hashes etc.
Ge0rGjonas’: I thought so much, but where the heck did you get that namespace from?
jonas’I pulled that example from some caps database I found
jonas’looked for a thing having all the things (forms, identities, etc.), took that one.
jonas’from here probably: https://github.com/xnyhps/capsdb/
Ge0rGjonas’: given that this looks editorial, do you want one big PR or individual ones?
jonas’individual ones are better
Ge0rG,oO( I need a CLI for that. )
Link Mauvelibpurple and Tkabber both carry this namespace from a cursory search.
Link MauveThe former only for its tests.
danielno other aob i assume?
danielin that case:
Ge0rGI wonder if there is also a /protocol/iddqd namespace somewhere.
Ge0rGdaniel: thanks very much, get well soon!
moparisthebestthanks all, feel better daniel
Link MauveAh, iSida bot also has support for iqibb.
Ge0rGLink Mauve: but what does it do?
Link MauveMatrix has it commented out.
Link MauveGe0rG, apparently nothing, just in its disco plugin.
Ge0rGthe xeps git history only ever has that in '390