I realized I won't be able to do anything editor-wise today, so don't block on that for the agenda, daniel
jonas’
(on a train until 22:00 local time at least)
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moparisthebest
I can't even imagine traveling on a train, that's something that only happens in movies :P
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moparisthebest
freight trains are a thing, just not passenger trains
Zash
let me tell you that overnight trains is the best way to travel
moparisthebest
better than drinking a ton of caffiene and driving through the night? :P I imagine so
Zash
Can't imagine the amounts of caffeine it would take to drive to Brussels!
Zash
Tho train there would likely take more than one night from here.
Zash
Better than the 3 hour flight where you're spending the entire day on airports and all the physical abuse that entails.
moparisthebest
how far is it?
jonas’
moparisthebest, yeah, I don't envy you for your terrible public transport over there
moparisthebest
I think the farthest I've driven in the shortest time was a ~2100 mile round trip to tow a truck back from Texas in ~52 hours or so, was pretty rough
Zash
~1700km or so
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moparisthebest
2100 miles == 3379.622 km , 1700km == 1056.331 miles
moparisthebest
jonas’, where I live we don't have terrible public transport, we just don't have public transport :P
Sam
Atlanta has great public transport, the train can take you both North *and* South! We are a 2 dimensional city, apparently.
Sam
(jokes aside: the subway is great, but it barely goes anywhere it's really embarassing)
jonas’
that's one way to implement the predicate "terrible public transport"✎
jonas’
moparisthebest, that's one way to implement the predicate "terrible public transport" ✏
moparisthebest
a city near me has subway tunnels that were dug in the early 1900s, pretty interesting article actually https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/10/12411632/public-transportation-failures-america-cincinnati-subway
moparisthebest
no subway was ever built though, other than the sandwich shops named subway
moparisthebest
honestly I'm not really interested in living anywhere where people are close enough to each other that public transit makes sense...
jonas’
well this is like 400km or so
Sam
You're forgetting that decent public transit is a mix of both local subway/bus/etc. but also light rail or similar to places further away
Sam
It *could* be possible to take Amtrak from Georgia to Texas and not have it take a week to go like 10 miles if we'd subsidize it more and not make them share the rails with freight, for example.
jonas’
(we're sharing rails with freight here...)
jonas’
(partially anyway)
Zash
We have electric buses (well, also diesel ones), but bike ftw!
jonas’
(but our freight trains don't go just 10mph)
Sam
yah, our freight trains are slow and as far as I can tell always get priority
Sam
It is possible to take Amtrak to a few places quicly, but only if you live in the east coast or just get lucky and need to go to very specific places
moparisthebest
I've looked at Amtrak in the past, it's just so far away to get to one I'm better off driving directly to my destination, also, pretty expensive
Sam
Eg. my parents live in the middle of nowhere North Eats GA ~100 miles from Atlanta, but its' surprisingly easy to get there on Amtrak for like $25 USD in just a few hours. That could be done elsewhere in the country and moparisthebest would be happy to live out of the city but still be able to take the train :)
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Yah, Amtrak is terrible, that's what I'm saying, it *could* be done better. Public transportation doesn't have to be just for cities.
moparisthebest
and planes, yikes
moparisthebest
everytime we plan a trip with the family we price planes and it's like $3500 for 5 people to fly or $300 in fuel to drive there
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moparisthebest
Sam, yea I'm not saying public transit *couldn't* work for the country I just have no frame of reference at alll :)