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jonas’
I realized I won't be able to do anything editor-wise today, so don't block on that for the agenda, daniel
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jonas’
(on a train until 22:00 local time at least)
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moparisthebest
I can't even imagine traveling on a train, that's something that only happens in movies :P
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moparisthebest
freight trains are a thing, just not passenger trains
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Zash
let me tell you that overnight trains is the best way to travel
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moparisthebest
better than drinking a ton of caffiene and driving through the night? :P I imagine so
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Zash
Can't imagine the amounts of caffeine it would take to drive to Brussels!
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Zash
Tho train there would likely take more than one night from here.
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Zash
Better than the 3 hour flight where you're spending the entire day on airports and all the physical abuse that entails.
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moparisthebest
how far is it?
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jonas’
moparisthebest, yeah, I don't envy you for your terrible public transport over there
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moparisthebest
I think the farthest I've driven in the shortest time was a ~2100 mile round trip to tow a truck back from Texas in ~52 hours or so, was pretty rough
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Zash
~1700km or so
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moparisthebest
2100 miles == 3379.622 km , 1700km == 1056.331 miles
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moparisthebest
jonas’, where I live we don't have terrible public transport, we just don't have public transport :P
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Sam
Atlanta has great public transport, the train can take you both North *and* South! We are a 2 dimensional city, apparently.
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Sam
(jokes aside: the subway is great, but it barely goes anywhere it's really embarassing)
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jonas’
that's one way to implement the predicate "terrible public transport"✎ -
jonas’
moparisthebest, that's one way to implement the predicate "terrible public transport" ✏
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moparisthebest
a city near me has subway tunnels that were dug in the early 1900s, pretty interesting article actually https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/10/12411632/public-transportation-failures-america-cincinnati-subway
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moparisthebest
no subway was ever built though, other than the sandwich shops named subway
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moparisthebest
honestly I'm not really interested in living anywhere where people are close enough to each other that public transit makes sense...
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jonas’
well this is like 400km or so
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Sam
You're forgetting that decent public transit is a mix of both local subway/bus/etc. but also light rail or similar to places further away
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Sam
It *could* be possible to take Amtrak from Georgia to Texas and not have it take a week to go like 10 miles if we'd subsidize it more and not make them share the rails with freight, for example.
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jonas’
(we're sharing rails with freight here...)
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jonas’
(partially anyway)
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Zash
We have electric buses (well, also diesel ones), but bike ftw!
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jonas’
(but our freight trains don't go just 10mph)
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Sam
yah, our freight trains are slow and as far as I can tell always get priority
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Sam
It is possible to take Amtrak to a few places quicly, but only if you live in the east coast or just get lucky and need to go to very specific places
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moparisthebest
I've looked at Amtrak in the past, it's just so far away to get to one I'm better off driving directly to my destination, also, pretty expensive
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Sam
Eg. my parents live in the middle of nowhere North Eats GA ~100 miles from Atlanta, but its' surprisingly easy to get there on Amtrak for like $25 USD in just a few hours. That could be done elsewhere in the country and moparisthebest would be happy to live out of the city but still be able to take the train :)
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Sam
Yah, Amtrak is terrible, that's what I'm saying, it *could* be done better. Public transportation doesn't have to be just for cities.
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moparisthebest
and planes, yikes
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moparisthebest
everytime we plan a trip with the family we price planes and it's like $3500 for 5 people to fly or $300 in fuel to drive there
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moparisthebest
Sam, yea I'm not saying public transit *couldn't* work for the country I just have no frame of reference at alll :)