XMPP Council - 2022-04-05

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  154. jonas’ I realized I won't be able to do anything editor-wise today, so don't block on that for the agenda, daniel
  155. jonas’ (on a train until 22:00 local time at least)
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  159. moparisthebest I can't even imagine traveling on a train, that's something that only happens in movies :P
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  161. moparisthebest freight trains are a thing, just not passenger trains
  162. Zash let me tell you that overnight trains is the best way to travel
  163. moparisthebest better than drinking a ton of caffiene and driving through the night? :P I imagine so
  164. Zash Can't imagine the amounts of caffeine it would take to drive to Brussels!
  165. Zash Tho train there would likely take more than one night from here.
  166. Zash Better than the 3 hour flight where you're spending the entire day on airports and all the physical abuse that entails.
  167. moparisthebest how far is it?
  168. jonas’ moparisthebest, yeah, I don't envy you for your terrible public transport over there
  169. moparisthebest I think the farthest I've driven in the shortest time was a ~2100 mile round trip to tow a truck back from Texas in ~52 hours or so, was pretty rough
  170. Zash ~1700km or so
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  172. moparisthebest 2100 miles == 3379.622 km , 1700km == 1056.331 miles
  173. moparisthebest jonas’, where I live we don't have terrible public transport, we just don't have public transport :P
  174. Sam Atlanta has great public transport, the train can take you both North *and* South! We are a 2 dimensional city, apparently.
  175. Sam (jokes aside: the subway is great, but it barely goes anywhere it's really embarassing)
  176. jonas’ that's one way to implement the predicate "terrible public transport"
  177. jonas’ moparisthebest, that's one way to implement the predicate "terrible public transport"
  178. moparisthebest a city near me has subway tunnels that were dug in the early 1900s, pretty interesting article actually https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/10/12411632/public-transportation-failures-america-cincinnati-subway
  179. moparisthebest no subway was ever built though, other than the sandwich shops named subway
  180. moparisthebest honestly I'm not really interested in living anywhere where people are close enough to each other that public transit makes sense...
  181. jonas’ well this is like 400km or so
  182. Sam You're forgetting that decent public transit is a mix of both local subway/bus/etc. but also light rail or similar to places further away
  183. Sam It *could* be possible to take Amtrak from Georgia to Texas and not have it take a week to go like 10 miles if we'd subsidize it more and not make them share the rails with freight, for example.
  184. jonas’ (we're sharing rails with freight here...)
  185. jonas’ (partially anyway)
  186. Zash We have electric buses (well, also diesel ones), but bike ftw!
  187. jonas’ (but our freight trains don't go just 10mph)
  188. Sam yah, our freight trains are slow and as far as I can tell always get priority
  189. Sam It is possible to take Amtrak to a few places quicly, but only if you live in the east coast or just get lucky and need to go to very specific places
  190. moparisthebest I've looked at Amtrak in the past, it's just so far away to get to one I'm better off driving directly to my destination, also, pretty expensive
  191. Sam Eg. my parents live in the middle of nowhere North Eats GA ~100 miles from Atlanta, but its' surprisingly easy to get there on Amtrak for like $25 USD in just a few hours. That could be done elsewhere in the country and moparisthebest would be happy to live out of the city but still be able to take the train :)
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  193. Sam Yah, Amtrak is terrible, that's what I'm saying, it *could* be done better. Public transportation doesn't have to be just for cities.
  194. moparisthebest and planes, yikes
  195. moparisthebest everytime we plan a trip with the family we price planes and it's like $3500 for 5 people to fly or $300 in fuel to drive there
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  197. moparisthebest Sam, yea I'm not saying public transit *couldn't* work for the country I just have no frame of reference at alll :)
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