XMPP Council - 2022-06-29

I may be late by a few minutes

It's time

(I won't be, though)

1) Roll call

present

o/

larma, Ge0rG?

another meeting at the same time, let's see if I can handle that

2) Agenda bashing sorry for not sending one out. there wouldn’t have been any interesting on there ffiw. but let me take the opportunity to point out that if you have anything that should be on the agenda ping me in here or send me a PM and i'll add it

3) editors update none this week

yep, editor was sleepy yesterday

4) items for voting none

5) Pending votes

larma, on both new XEPs

jonas’ and daniel on Websocket s2s

moparisthebest, would you be willing to take Peter up on the offer to guide you through the rfc process?

because what Peter said in the email are basically my thoughts from last week as well (should be a new rfc that covers both)

I'm -0 on the websocket s2s thing, because: - it should probably be an RFC - I can't bring myself to vote *for* the concept of websocket s2s.

yep! though probably still want them as XEPs in the short term

(but I'll not veto it if "we" want to have this conceptual (insert word) at all and develop it in experimental a bit before it moves on as RFC)

I’m -0 on the XEP websocket s2s (should be an rfc)

furthermore, I second Ge0rGs comments on XMPP-over-QUIC

yep I'll fix that wording as soon as voting is over

(In particular 52{22,69}/udp)

and commence the bikeshedding on the default port >:)

(i think this means that larma has to be at least a +1; if he -0 it as well it wont pass, right?)

I couldn't disagree more on the default ports changing though, otherwise what's ALPN for ?

no matter the default port, we should get a registration because it makes sense for cases where people don't want to multiplex.

ALPN is to rot in hell?

(*scnr*)

ALPN is here, mandatory, and now encrypted, why reveal we are doing XMPP instead of HTTPS? iirc there is a whole RFC and working group commited to making passive survallience harder

but, I digress :)

ok i’m gonna assume that larma is still on list for those two XEPs; let's move on

6) Date of Next

+1w wfm

+1w wfm

one of my projects is currently going through a rather busy phase so there is a slight chance I won’t make it; but i'll try

+1w wfm

7) AOB

none here

none here

8) Close

thank you all

thanks all !