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moparisthebest
it's time for my weekly ping-the-council-room-so-it-moves-to-the-top-of-my-chat-lists
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jonas’
blerg
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Zash
MEETINGS!
- Zash ponders a bot poking the 'pinned' bookmark extension...
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daniel
It's time
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daniel
1) roll call
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larma
👋️
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moparisthebest
Hello!
- Ge0rG
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daniel
i assume jonas’ is still here from 3 mins ago?
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jonas’
..
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jonas’
yeah more or less
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daniel
2) Agenda Bashing
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jonas’
knee deep in burning piles of chaos
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daniel
nothing to bash
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daniel
3) Editors update none
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daniel
4) Items for voting - Nothing new this week
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daniel
5) Pending votes
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daniel
- Georg on Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Attachments
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daniel
last chance today
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daniel
- Everyone on Move XEP-0215: External Service Discovery to stable
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Ge0rG
+1 on Pubsub Attachments
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Ge0rG
I kinda sorta voted +1 on XEP-0215 last meeting
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jonas’
I seem to recall to have written something to the list
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jonas’
was there feedback on that?
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daniel
anyone wants to vote on 215 - the arguments both Zash and MattJ brought up wrt http proxy kinda of convinced me to leave it configurable
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daniel
not to your email
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jonas’
(sorry, haven't touched my private inbox today yet... still working)
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moparisthebest
yea I agree, there isn't a major compelling reason to remove the extra stuff, and if people have ideas in mind that's good enough
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daniel
Ge0rG, yes they were some kind of sort of votes last week but i didn’t record any
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daniel
but i recorded your +1 now
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moparisthebest
I'm going to go ahead and vote +1 on 215
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jonas’
HTTP proxies sound good indeed
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jonas’
they are similar enough to STUN/TURN that it makes sense, too
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daniel
I’m +1 based on that
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larma
I also see the issue of push functionality which apparently isn't implemented either
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jonas’
migth want to change that into "authenticated proxy protocol services" ("APPS") eventually, but I'm good with it as-is
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jonas’
+1
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jonas’
larma, didn't someone mention using push?
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moparisthebest
I believe Zash said he implemented push
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daniel
i haven’t implemented push but I can sort of see the point. especially once we have http in there
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Zash
I did, as a prototype, as it would be more standards-compliant than what it was meant to replace.
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moparisthebest
there is prior art there, I believe 368 was moved to stable when no one had implemented the s2s part, and now people have :/
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larma
I mean, it's probably fine to move to stable anyway
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jonas’
stable/draft does not require implementations
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Zash
moparisthebest, implementations is a condition for Final, not Stable
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jonas’
^5 Zash
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larma
yes, but lack of implementations might indicate lack of usefullness, given that most XEPs are experimental for long time
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jonas’
let's not get into that right now
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jonas’
(Experimental explicitly discourages implementations)
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larma
discourages *production* implementations
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larma
but encourages experimental implementations
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Ge0rG
> moparisthebest, implementations is a condition for Final, not Stable Would it make sense to change our process to require implementations for Stable?
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jonas’
fair enough
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jonas’
but an experimental push implementation does exist, larma
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larma
yes, I noted that
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jonas’
ok
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larma
I'm also +1 now knowing that 😉
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jonas’
sorry, I can only pay attention wtih about 20% of my mind here
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jonas’
so I might miss subtext or context on some statements
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daniel
moparisthebest, do you have a vote too?
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moparisthebest
daniel, already voted +1 up above yours
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Zash
as I think I said, the use case for 215-push may be better served by integrating with bind2, but that's not ready yet...
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daniel
sorry I missed that
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moparisthebest
np :D
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daniel
it's recorded now. so let's move on
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daniel
6) Date of Next
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jonas’
+1w wfm
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daniel
+1w wfm
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larma
+1w wfm
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moparisthebest
+1w wfm
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Ge0rG
I'll have to miss next week
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daniel
Ge0rG, noted
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daniel
7) AOB
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moparisthebest
nothing here
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larma
FYI, I wrote Dave regarding fallbacks but he was on holiday last week
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daniel
ok. no other aob I assume
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daniel
8) Close
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daniel
thank you all
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moparisthebest
thanks daniel !
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jonas’
thanks daniel !