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moparisthebest
so did we get a decision about moving it or not ? I'm fine either way just want to know :)
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daniel
We are not moving it
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moparisthebest
thanks!
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Ge0rG
we are not moving it [related to local time in Central Europe]
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moparisthebest
my calendar entry is in CEST and so it's moved 1 hour for me, but should be at the same time for you all, assuming the calendar did the right thing :)
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daniel
My Dino is failing to start. So I'll be trying to keep the meeting short
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moparisthebest
soup2 vs soup3 battle?
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daniel
Yes
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moparisthebest
classic
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daniel
Is that a known thing? I haven't bothered to actually look into it
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moparisthebest
yes https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/1301
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moparisthebest
tl;dr your distro messed up, needs recompiled to fix, but possibly dino could make that fail to compile vs fail at runtime
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daniel
What needs recompiling?
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daniel
Because I did compile Dino myself
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moparisthebest
I'm not entirely clear on that, you have to set the flags so only 1 of the soup's is used, or try that branch linked at the bottom of that issue ?
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daniel
Mhh probably both I guess. The flag to not make it immediately crash. And then the branch to not make it crash under certain conditions I guess...
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daniel
hello from dino
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moparisthebest
hello
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larma
moparisthebest, fail to compile actually doesn't work because we can't know at compile time if the libsoup version used by libgupnp used by libnice will be 2 or 3, because the update of libgupnp which migrated from 2 to 3 does not bump the .so number, meaning it is updated independently of libnice. Fedora people seem to be the only ones noticing that this is a major issue so they made it something to specifically look at for the next release https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/libsoup_3:_Part_One
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moparisthebest
> because the update of libgupnp which migrated from 2 to 3 does not bump the .so number yikes...
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larma
well they argue they are ABI compatible which is somewhat true because the libsoup version is not really exposed to apps using it
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larma
but yeah, it's a mess. Also it doesn't help that libsoup 3 is still rather unstable (ton of bugs / incorrect behavior in their http/2 implementation)
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moparisthebest
it's ABI compatible except if you try to use it in your application it'll crash ! :D
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larma
only if your application dares to use libsoup 2 😉
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jonas’
I may be late by a few minutes
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jonas’
ETA 1605Z
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moparisthebest
I'm fine waiting
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daniel
It's time
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daniel
1) roll call
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jonas’
walking
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Ge0rG
good morning!
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moparisthebest
o/
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larma
👋️
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daniel
2) Agenda bashing
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daniel
nothing. It's gonna be a quick meeting
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daniel
3) Editors update none this week
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daniel
4) Items for voting nothing new this week
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daniel
5) Pending votes
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Ge0rG
I'm +1 on everything!
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daniel
Ge0rG is pending on three proposed xeps
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daniel
ok thank you Ge0rG
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daniel
this means all three XEPs from two weeks ago are accepted
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daniel
6) Date of next
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daniel
+1w wfm
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moparisthebest
+1w wfm, back at the normal time for me
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larma
I might be at a place without internet connectivity next week
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daniel
ok noted
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jonas’
o/
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jonas’
+1w wfm
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daniel
7) AOB
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jonas’
I note we only have one applicant so far
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larma
I intend to reapply, just failed to do it yet
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larma
it's still 3 days left
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jonas’
I'm not sure yet
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jonas’
which makes it rather likely that I'll miss the deadline
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moparisthebest
I'm going to reapply too
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MattJ
jonas’, is your decision depending on any external factors that can be controlled?
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MattJ
(just checking)
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jonas’
MattJ, I don't think I'm particularly suited for council given the lack of insight I have nowadays in much of the protocol topics.
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jonas’
that makes it tricky to vote on stuff with sufficient confidence and that's not a nice position to be in
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jonas’
I wonder if that'll improve when I'm not detracted by having to touch xsf/xeps anymore :shrug:
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jonas’
but that's a bet on the future and I'm at this point not quite sure I want to take that bet
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MattJ
Noted
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daniel
ok. I assume no other AOB
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daniel
8) Close
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jonas’
thanks daniel
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larma
thanks daniel 🙂
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Ge0rG
thanks daniel
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moparisthebest
thanks !
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moparisthebest
jonas’, fwiw I think lack of insight can be a good thing, if the XEP isn't clear in and of itself, if it's only clear given sufficient tribal knowledge, then it's a bad XEP