XMPP Council - 2022-11-08

  1. MattJ

    I'm heading to London for the IETF meeting. There is a MIMI session tomorrow morning at 9:30am. Remote attendance is possible (you have to register as an attendee, but don't have to pay). Session details and materials are here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda/?filters=mimi

  2. MattJ

    For some context on MIMI, check your email archives for a summary I sent some months ago after the last meeting

  3. MattJ

    As far as I'm aware, I'll be the only person present participating with a strong XMPP background, so additional folk would be welcome :)

  4. jonas’

    not sure if I can make it happen work-wise

  5. MattJ

    It would probably help balance the "just use Matrix for this" stirrings in the group

  6. jonas’

    and what level of argumentation is going on there?

  7. jonas’

    also, which timezone?

  8. emus

    MattJ: can you send the suggetsion to @members?

  9. MattJ

    I meant to write UTC, sorry

  10. MattJ

    The one true zone

  11. jonas’


  12. jonas’

    two hours, uff

  13. MattJ


  14. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    I checked and it looks like i do nave to pay. Also i dont have an account which may be the issue 🤔

  15. emus

    pay? 🤔

  16. emus

    anyway - can XSF take the bill?

  17. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Not sure. I saw that maybe i can sign up. Will check later :)

  18. emus

    about how much money do we talk?

  19. emus

    MattJ: and thanks Matt for doing this. if I can support you a likely non-technical level let me know

  20. Kev

    You shouldn’t have to pay for remote participation.

  21. jonas’

    that's what's written there though

  22. jonas’

    Kev, https://registration.ietf.org/115/

  23. emus

    We should the same...

  24. Zash

    $800 to attend Summit?

  25. emus


  26. emus

    anyway, I would still advocate to have people from us there

  27. jonas’

    MattJ will be at least :-)

  28. emus

    I'd prefer at least two

  29. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    I registered to be tommorow at the mim session.

  30. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Bear in mind though that i am far from knowledgable and my internet may or may not be down tomorrow

  31. jonas’

    MSavoritias (fae,ve), did you pay the $125 or what?

  32. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    No it was free

  33. jonas’


  34. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    I logged in and it said pick session and i picked the mim one

  35. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Is there anything else to do?

  36. Zash

    What the UX?

  37. emus

    MSavoritias (fae,ve): awesome

  38. jonas’

    we should try to not be *too* many

  39. jonas’

    I'll see that I can register for tomorrow, things at work went well today so that I can break that time out

  40. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Wait how many people are going to be there?

  41. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Am i supposed to talk or something there?

  42. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    This is my first time getting involved there..

  43. emus

    MSavoritias (fae,ve) jonas’: maybe still you can post this in the chat and ask for people with explicit strong background

  44. jonas’

    emus, like in the council chat? :-)

  45. Kev

    Yes, that's what Matt did by asking Council.

  46. jonas’

    where the community-elected people wtih strong technical background are?

  47. Kev

    (And a couple of others by mail)

  48. emus

    jonas’: haha

  49. emus

    ok fine

  50. Zash

    There are lists if you click Onsite Participants and Remote Participants at https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/115/

  51. emus

    can someone answer to MSavoritias (fae,ve)

  52. flow

    MSavoritias (fae,ve), you can alos just quietly lurk around

  53. flow

    MSavoritias (fae,ve), you can also just quietly lurk around

  54. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Okay that was my plan. Unless of course i can offer any insight

  55. emus

    MSavoritias (fae,ve): can you point for others here where you could register fro free

  56. jonas’

    13:09:49 MSavoritias (fae,ve)> I logged in and it said pick session and i picked the mim one

  57. emus

    ah ok

  58. emus


  59. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Yeah. Here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda

  60. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    > Kev: > You shouldn’t have to pay for remote participation. Actually im not sure this is true. Because here it says i have to pay: https://registration.ietf.org/115

  61. flow

    In my experience IETF meetings where a lot like hybrid FOSDEM lately

  62. flow

    where you can just watch the livestream and join the related chat

  63. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Yeah i joined the group chat

  64. Zash

    https://www.ietf.org/forms/115-registration-fee-waiver/ > We make an unlimited number of fee waivers available to remote participants but > Please note that it can take up to 2 days to receive your fee waiver.

  65. flow

    if you go to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda and search for 'mimi', then there are the links to the live stream and the chat room. I am not sure what a paid registration additionally provides

  66. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Yeah that was my question too. Especially for remote

  67. jonas’

    ability to speak maybe?

  68. flow

    possibly, but IMHO unlikely as it would not feel within the spirit of the IETF

  69. Zash

    Watching without formally attending does seem possible.

  70. flow

    but maybe that is just wishfull thinking on my end

  71. Zash

    At least, some seemed to be streamed?

  72. Zash


  73. flow

    in any case, there are unlimited remote participation fee waivers, as zash posted. even though they state that it could take 2 days to get those processed, I can't hurt to try to get one

  74. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Through datatracker i have: Full client with video Onsite tool Audio stream So i will see qhat they are. And i have the chat too

  75. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    flow: You were optimistic. I cant access the feeds say unathorized. So if the waiver comes by tomorrow i can attend. Otherwise nope :(

  76. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    But i can be in the chat

  77. flow

    hmm, maybe the feeds need to live to access them? well see soon :)

  78. flow

    hmm, maybe the feeds need to be live to access them? well see soon :)

  79. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Its the live feeds i tried

  80. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    But yeah lets see