XMPP Council - 2022-11-08


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  177. MattJ I'm heading to London for the IETF meeting. There is a MIMI session tomorrow morning at 9:30am. Remote attendance is possible (you have to register as an attendee, but don't have to pay). Session details and materials are here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda/?filters=mimi
  178. MattJ For some context on MIMI, check your email archives for a summary I sent some months ago after the last meeting
  179. MattJ As far as I'm aware, I'll be the only person present participating with a strong XMPP background, so additional folk would be welcome :)
  180. jonas’ not sure if I can make it happen work-wise
  181. MattJ It would probably help balance the "just use Matrix for this" stirrings in the group
  182. jonas’ and what level of argumentation is going on there?
  183. jonas’ also, which timezone?
  184. emus MattJ: can you send the suggetsion to @members?
  185. MattJ I meant to write UTC, sorry
  186. MattJ The one true zone
  187. jonas’ ack
  188. jonas’ two hours, uff
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  191. MattJ 🍿
  192. MSavoritias (fae,ve) I checked and it looks like i do nave to pay. Also i dont have an account which may be the issue 🤔
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  195. emus pay? 🤔
  196. emus anyway - can XSF take the bill?
  197. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Not sure. I saw that maybe i can sign up. Will check later :)
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  200. emus about how much money do we talk?
  201. emus MattJ: and thanks Matt for doing this. if I can support you a likely non-technical level let me know
  202. Kev You shouldn’t have to pay for remote participation.
  203. jonas’ that's what's written there though
  204. jonas’ Kev, https://registration.ietf.org/115/
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  210. emus We should the same...
  211. Zash $800 to attend Summit?
  212. emus 😶‍🌫️
  213. emus anyway, I would still advocate to have people from us there
  214. jonas’ MattJ will be at least :-)
  215. emus I'd prefer at least two
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  221. MSavoritias (fae,ve) I registered to be tommorow at the mim session.
  222. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Bear in mind though that i am far from knowledgable and my internet may or may not be down tomorrow
  223. jonas’ MSavoritias (fae,ve), did you pay the $125 or what?
  224. MSavoritias (fae,ve) No it was free
  225. jonas’ uh-uh
  226. MSavoritias (fae,ve) I logged in and it said pick session and i picked the mim one
  227. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Is there anything else to do?
  228. Zash What the UX?
  229. emus MSavoritias (fae,ve): awesome
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  231. jonas’ we should try to not be *too* many
  232. jonas’ I'll see that I can register for tomorrow, things at work went well today so that I can break that time out
  233. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Wait how many people are going to be there?
  234. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Am i supposed to talk or something there?
  235. MSavoritias (fae,ve) This is my first time getting involved there..
  236. emus MSavoritias (fae,ve) jonas’: maybe still you can post this in the chat and ask for people with explicit strong background
  237. jonas’ emus, like in the council chat? :-)
  238. Kev Yes, that's what Matt did by asking Council.
  239. jonas’ where the community-elected people wtih strong technical background are?
  240. Kev (And a couple of others by mail)
  241. emus jonas’: haha
  242. emus ok fine
  243. Zash There are lists if you click Onsite Participants and Remote Participants at https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/115/
  244. emus can someone answer to MSavoritias (fae,ve)
  245. flow MSavoritias (fae,ve), you can alos just quietly lurk around
  246. flow MSavoritias (fae,ve), you can also just quietly lurk around
  247. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Okay that was my plan. Unless of course i can offer any insight
  248. emus MSavoritias (fae,ve): can you point for others here where you could register fro free
  249. jonas’ 13:09:49 MSavoritias (fae,ve)> I logged in and it said pick session and i picked the mim one
  250. emus ah ok
  251. emus missed
  252. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Yeah. Here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda
  253. MSavoritias (fae,ve) > Kev: > You shouldn’t have to pay for remote participation. Actually im not sure this is true. Because here it says i have to pay: https://registration.ietf.org/115
  254. flow In my experience IETF meetings where a lot like hybrid FOSDEM lately
  255. flow where you can just watch the livestream and join the related chat
  256. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Yeah i joined the group chat
  257. Zash https://www.ietf.org/forms/115-registration-fee-waiver/ > We make an unlimited number of fee waivers available to remote participants but > Please note that it can take up to 2 days to receive your fee waiver.
  258. flow if you go to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda and search for 'mimi', then there are the links to the live stream and the chat room. I am not sure what a paid registration additionally provides
  259. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Yeah that was my question too. Especially for remote
  260. jonas’ ability to speak maybe?
  261. flow possibly, but IMHO unlikely as it would not feel within the spirit of the IETF
  262. Zash Watching without formally attending does seem possible.
  263. flow but maybe that is just wishfull thinking on my end
  264. Zash At least, some seemed to be streamed?
  265. Zash https://www.ietf.org/live/
  266. flow in any case, there are unlimited remote participation fee waivers, as zash posted. even though they state that it could take 2 days to get those processed, I can't hurt to try to get one
  267. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Through datatracker i have: Full client with video Onsite tool Audio stream So i will see qhat they are. And i have the chat too
  268. MSavoritias (fae,ve) flow: You were optimistic. I cant access the feeds say unathorized. So if the waiver comes by tomorrow i can attend. Otherwise nope :(
  269. MSavoritias (fae,ve) But i can be in the chat
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  272. flow hmm, maybe the feeds need to live to access them? well see soon :)
  273. flow hmm, maybe the feeds need to be live to access them? well see soon :)
  274. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Its the live feeds i tried
  275. MSavoritias (fae,ve) But yeah lets see
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