XMPP Council - 2022-11-08


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  177. MattJ

    I'm heading to London for the IETF meeting. There is a MIMI session tomorrow morning at 9:30am. Remote attendance is possible (you have to register as an attendee, but don't have to pay). Session details and materials are here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda/?filters=mimi

  178. MattJ

    For some context on MIMI, check your email archives for a summary I sent some months ago after the last meeting

  179. MattJ

    As far as I'm aware, I'll be the only person present participating with a strong XMPP background, so additional folk would be welcome :)

  180. jonas’

    not sure if I can make it happen work-wise

  181. MattJ

    It would probably help balance the "just use Matrix for this" stirrings in the group

  182. jonas’

    and what level of argumentation is going on there?

  183. jonas’

    also, which timezone?

  184. emus

    MattJ: can you send the suggetsion to @members?

  185. MattJ

    I meant to write UTC, sorry

  186. MattJ

    The one true zone

  187. jonas’

    ack

  188. jonas’

    two hours, uff

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  191. MattJ

    🍿

  192. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    I checked and it looks like i do nave to pay. Also i dont have an account which may be the issue 🤔

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  195. emus

    pay? 🤔

  196. emus

    anyway - can XSF take the bill?

  197. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Not sure. I saw that maybe i can sign up. Will check later :)

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  200. emus

    about how much money do we talk?

  201. emus

    MattJ: and thanks Matt for doing this. if I can support you a likely non-technical level let me know

  202. Kev

    You shouldn’t have to pay for remote participation.

  203. jonas’

    that's what's written there though

  204. jonas’

    Kev, https://registration.ietf.org/115/

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  210. emus

    We should the same...

  211. Zash

    $800 to attend Summit?

  212. emus

    😶‍🌫️

  213. emus

    anyway, I would still advocate to have people from us there

  214. jonas’

    MattJ will be at least :-)

  215. emus

    I'd prefer at least two

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  221. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    I registered to be tommorow at the mim session.

  222. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Bear in mind though that i am far from knowledgable and my internet may or may not be down tomorrow

  223. jonas’

    MSavoritias (fae,ve), did you pay the $125 or what?

  224. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    No it was free

  225. jonas’

    uh-uh

  226. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    I logged in and it said pick session and i picked the mim one

  227. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Is there anything else to do?

  228. Zash

    What the UX?

  229. emus

    MSavoritias (fae,ve): awesome

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  231. jonas’

    we should try to not be *too* many

  232. jonas’

    I'll see that I can register for tomorrow, things at work went well today so that I can break that time out

  233. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Wait how many people are going to be there?

  234. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Am i supposed to talk or something there?

  235. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    This is my first time getting involved there..

  236. emus

    MSavoritias (fae,ve) jonas’: maybe still you can post this in the chat and ask for people with explicit strong background

  237. jonas’

    emus, like in the council chat? :-)

  238. Kev

    Yes, that's what Matt did by asking Council.

  239. jonas’

    where the community-elected people wtih strong technical background are?

  240. Kev

    (And a couple of others by mail)

  241. emus

    jonas’: haha

  242. emus

    ok fine

  243. Zash

    There are lists if you click Onsite Participants and Remote Participants at https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/115/

  244. emus

    can someone answer to MSavoritias (fae,ve)

  245. flow

    MSavoritias (fae,ve), you can alos just quietly lurk around

  246. flow

    MSavoritias (fae,ve), you can also just quietly lurk around

  247. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Okay that was my plan. Unless of course i can offer any insight

  248. emus

    MSavoritias (fae,ve): can you point for others here where you could register fro free

  249. jonas’

    13:09:49 MSavoritias (fae,ve)> I logged in and it said pick session and i picked the mim one

  250. emus

    ah ok

  251. emus

    missed

  252. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Yeah. Here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda

  253. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    > Kev: > You shouldn’t have to pay for remote participation. Actually im not sure this is true. Because here it says i have to pay: https://registration.ietf.org/115

  254. flow

    In my experience IETF meetings where a lot like hybrid FOSDEM lately

  255. flow

    where you can just watch the livestream and join the related chat

  256. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Yeah i joined the group chat

  257. Zash

    https://www.ietf.org/forms/115-registration-fee-waiver/ > We make an unlimited number of fee waivers available to remote participants but > Please note that it can take up to 2 days to receive your fee waiver.

  258. flow

    if you go to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda and search for 'mimi', then there are the links to the live stream and the chat room. I am not sure what a paid registration additionally provides

  259. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Yeah that was my question too. Especially for remote

  260. jonas’

    ability to speak maybe?

  261. flow

    possibly, but IMHO unlikely as it would not feel within the spirit of the IETF

  262. Zash

    Watching without formally attending does seem possible.

  263. flow

    but maybe that is just wishfull thinking on my end

  264. Zash

    At least, some seemed to be streamed?

  265. Zash

    https://www.ietf.org/live/

  266. flow

    in any case, there are unlimited remote participation fee waivers, as zash posted. even though they state that it could take 2 days to get those processed, I can't hurt to try to get one

  267. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Through datatracker i have: Full client with video Onsite tool Audio stream So i will see qhat they are. And i have the chat too

  268. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    flow: You were optimistic. I cant access the feeds say unathorized. So if the waiver comes by tomorrow i can attend. Otherwise nope :(

  269. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    But i can be in the chat

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  272. flow

    hmm, maybe the feeds need to live to access them? well see soon :)

  273. flow

    hmm, maybe the feeds need to be live to access them? well see soon :)

  274. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Its the live feeds i tried

  275. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    But yeah lets see

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