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jonas’
MattJ, MSavoritias (fae,ve), I'm getting a 401 Unauthorized on the full client because of lack of proper registration.
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jonas’
the audio stream seems to 404
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MSavoritias (fae,ve)
Yeah that sounds like the thing i had yesterday. Im still waiting for an email for the waiver
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jonas’
I didn't apply for one :/
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Kev
Jonas if Council need to spend $50 to attend this, I have no doubt the XSF will reimburse.
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jonas’
$125 (I'm no student), and 3 minutes before the meeting might be a *bit* short notice
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MSavoritias (fae,ve)
Yeah true.
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Kev
I'm sure the XSF would spend $125 to have one of Council there, too.
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MattJ
Definitely
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Kev
I meant to register and read the docs yesterday, but I had a bit of a day of it with health things, so I didn't.
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jonas’
is it worth trying this now?
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jonas’
and hoping that it resolves in time?
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jonas’
I mean that the regstiration takes effect in time
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MSavoritias (fae,ve)
I got my free waiver actually so i will ve able to join
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jonas’
ok, paid and joined
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Kev
Thanks Jonas.
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emus
👍👍👍
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emus
Please take some notes and report to the members 🙏🙏🙏
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Ge0rG
I'm currently on a train and in a phone conference, at least one of those two imediments might cease until 1700CET
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daniel
Hi. Sorry I'm currently stranded in the middle of nowhere and the train that's supposed to take me home is canceled. I'm not gonna make it in time for the meeting
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daniel
If someone else could chair this would be great. Imho it would be good to start voting on the new xeps
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daniel
I do have cell phone connection but I also need to figure out how go get home
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jonas’
daniel: I can take over
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jonas’
I'll be home in 10mins
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daniel
jonas’: thank you
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jonas’
o/
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moparisthebest
hello
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jonas’
alright, I wanted a bell emoji but apparently everything is broken, so here goes
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jonas’
1) Roll call
- jonas’ is present
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Kev
🔔
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jonas’
thanks :)
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Zash
🔕️
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jonas’
do we have a moparisthebest, a Ge0rG, a larma, a daniel?
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larma
👋
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moparisthebest
yep
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jonas’
that's a quorum at least. I suspect daniel and Ge0rG may be stuck in transportation-related difficulties, so I'll slowly get started anyway
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jonas’
2) Agenda Bashing
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jonas’
assuming nothing to bash
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jonas’
3) Editor's Update
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jonas’
- Proposed XMPP Extension: SCRAM Upgrade Tasks (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-scram-upgrade.html) - Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Signing: OpenPGP Profile (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-signing-openpgp.html) - Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Signing (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-signing.html) - Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Targeted Encryption (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-targeted-encryption.html) - Proposed XMPP Extension: Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-fast.html)
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jonas’
4) Items for Voting
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jonas’
a) Proposed XMPP Extension: SCRAM Upgrade Tasks (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-scram-upgrade.html)
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moparisthebest
on-list
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jonas’
+1
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larma
on-list
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jonas’
the others seem absent, so moving on
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jonas’
b) Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Signing: OpenPGP Profile (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-signing-openpgp.html)
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jonas’
I suspect it may be worth looking at c) first
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jonas’
+1 on the condition that c) is accepted
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jonas’
any other votes, or shall we do c) first?
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moparisthebest
on-list on both b) and c)
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larma
I'm +1 on b/c/d, they're not perfect, but nothing that can't be handled after accept
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jonas’
ack
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jonas’
c) Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Signing (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-signing.html)
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moparisthebest
on-list
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jonas’
ack
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jonas’
d) Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Targeted Encryption (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-targeted-encryption.html)
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jonas’
… I forgot to vote on c)
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moparisthebest
on-list
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Ge0rG
Sorry, I'm stuck in traffic chaos and can't follow here.
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moparisthebest
(was going to mention that you forgot to vote on c) lol)
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jonas’
Ge0rG, thanks for the notice, good drive
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MattJ
FWIW from speaking to folk at the IETF meeting, there is some desire to solve the SCRAM upgrade stuff in a generic cross-protocol way. Doesn't mean we can't accept the XEP as experimental, but it could end up being changed somewhat.
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MattJ
Sorry for the latency, typing on mobile
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moparisthebest
nice, thanks MattJ
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jonas’
MattJ, that's what experimental is for :-)
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jonas’
and actually that would be the best outcome :)
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jonas’
+1 on c)
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jonas’
I'm not sure yet about d), I'll be on-list
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jonas’
e) Proposed XMPP Extension: Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-fast.html)
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moparisthebest
on-list again
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tmolitor
a) and e) are both depending on the pending sasl2 update, BTW.
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larma
on-list
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jonas’
tmolitor, which kind of "pending"?
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jonas’
blocking on whom?
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jonas’
+1 on e)
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tmolitor
Dave's feedback is pending
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jonas’
ok, I haven't heard back from dave, which isn't great
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jonas’
I hope he's fine
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tmolitor
Mattj has, i think
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jonas’
ah ok
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jonas’
moving on then
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jonas’
5) Date of Next
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jonas’
+1w wfm, though it's a public holiday here which makes me prone of forgetting about it :)✎ -
moparisthebest
+1w wfm
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tmolitor
Dave seems to be very busy atm
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jonas’
+1w wfm, though it's a public holiday here which makes me prone to forgetting about it :) ✏
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jonas’
tmolitor, I'll get in touch with MattJ separately when he's back from the IETF stress and get a gauge on whether dwd can/should/will continue and then we can address this next week.
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jonas’
larma, next week?✎ -
jonas’
larma, +1w wfy? ✏
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larma
Yes
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jonas’
great
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jonas’
6) AOB
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jonas’
6a) MIMI WG in the IETF
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jonas’
just a quick report that I attended the BoF session for the More Instant Messaging Interop working group in the IETF remotely today (MattJ was there in person).
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moparisthebest
thanks everyone here that attended that for doing so by the way, much appreciated
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jonas’
I'll try to keep up with what's going on there as it seems very interesting and something we need to keep an eye on XMPP-wise
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tmolitor
jonas’: great
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jonas’
it was mostly charter discussion though, and I learnt more about the IETF process than anything substantial about MIMI :)
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MattJ
I'll post another update about MIMI to the list soon
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jonas’
yep, I suspect you have more insights as you can talk to people :-)
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jonas’
great
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jonas’
any other AOB?
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moparisthebest
not here
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jonas’
taking the silence and lack of chat state notifications as a "no"
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jonas’
7) Ite Meeting Est
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jonas’
Thanks everyone!
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moparisthebest
thanks jonas’ and all
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tmolitor
Thanks jonas’
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larma
Thanks jonas’
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jonas’
I forgot to mention my favourite sentence from the BoF session
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jonas’
> I remember the days before SMTP dominated
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jonas’
that's a sentence you hear rarely
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Zash
Know if it was recorded?
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Kev
As a company that still sells X.400 systems...
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jonas’
Zash, don't know, sorry
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Zash
Looks like there's a video recording, linked from https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda/
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Ge0rG
daniel: you don't happen to be stuck around Siegburg/Bonn? Or is there another, separate public transportation nightmare happening?
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daniel
Ge0rG: that's exactly were I was
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daniel
Luckily emphasis on the was. I'm home now
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Ge0rG
daniel: happy to hear that, I'm still another four to five hours away from my destination
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daniel
Ge0rG: are the trains running again?
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Ge0rG
daniel: yes, according to the bird site, the rampage situation was resolved roughly haf an hour ago.