Hey XEP experts,
if anyone can support highlighting what of the xep listed above stands out as "highlights" in the recent years, that would be a great support. If anything is missing please add. I focused onoy on new, proposed, proto and stable
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Ge0rG
last week's lines in the spreadsheet of doom are all crossed through, what's the matter with that? Should I still vote?
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flow
maybe because of the upcoming council eleection?
Ge0rG
does it mean all votes are postponed until next council, or does it mean we need to complete voting before the election is finished?
daniel
let me check. but that's likely just a weird glitch
daniel
doesn’t mean anything
daniel
for some reason google sheets defaults to strike through when adding a new line
daniel
I wanted to start voting last week (even though I couldn’t be there) to get the votes through before the council period ends
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daniel
tmolitor, the scram upgrade tasks xep depends on the new version of sals2, no?
daniel
because of xml elements vs base64?
daniel
and/or task data simply not existing
jonas’
.
daniel
It's time
daniel
1) Roll call
moparisthebest
hello!
jonas’
here
larma
👋️
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daniel
Ge0rG?
Ge0rG
hi
daniel
2) Agenda bashing
daniel
I assume nothing to bash
daniel
3) Editors updates
daniel
no new updates this week
daniel
4) Items for voting
daniel
none
daniel
5) Pending votes
daniel
everyone but jonas’ on scram upgrade tasks
Ge0rG
I'm still on list, but I have one question regarding Pubsub Signing
daniel
I'm on list. this depends on on unresolved sasl 2 situation. which we might resolve soon
moparisthebest
on-list
larma
also on-list
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pubsub signing is pending from moparisthebest Ge0rG and me
daniel
on-list
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on-list
daniel
you had a question (to whom?) Ge0rG ?
Ge0rG
I've just had a brief skim, and it looks like the signed content is embedded into the <sign-data> element, which is good. but it also claims to be backward-compatible, so is another (unsigned) copy of the element put somewhere else?
larma
The <sign-data> element is only for what is signed, it doesn't actually appear on wire
larma
and the signature only shows in a pubsub attachment. clients fetching the node without the attachment don't see any difference (hence it's backwards compatible)
Ge0rG
larma: ah, thanks. I'll do another in-depth read based on that!
daniel
ok I assume everyone who hasn’t voted already is on list for either of the two pubsub signing xeps?
daniel
moving on then
Ge0rG
yes, on-list
daniel
everyone except jonas’ is pending on Fast
daniel
+1
moparisthebest
+1 on fast
larma
This also depends on sasl2, no?
tmolitor
> tmolitor, the scram upgrade tasks xep depends on the new version of sals2, no?
> because of xml elements vs base64?
Yes it does
tmolitor
Like bind2 and by extension fast, too
Ge0rG
on-list
larma
on-list
daniel
because of the change with <inline/>? yes that's unfortunate
daniel
mhh yes I'll retract my +1 for now
daniel
6) Date of next
daniel
+1w wfm
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+1w wfm
moparisthebest
+1 wfm
tmolitor
We really need Dave to react :/
moparisthebest
we have pretty good consensus to just do it, why don't we just do it ?
jonas’
+1w wfm
Ge0rG
+1w wfm
daniel
7) AOB
daniel
I have some
daniel
do we want to do something about the SASL 2 situation?
moparisthebest
yes, let's change it and move forward
jonas’
I poked MattJ as I promised last week. Except I did it only just now.
jonas’
but given that dwd didn't reply to the email yet, we can also go ahead and add another author
moparisthebest
can we vote to add MattJ as author ?
daniel
does he want to be an author?
jonas’
don't we have to add tmolitor instead?
tmolitor
Honestly most of the new sasl2 stuff is from me
daniel
yeah that would be the other candidate
larma
At least tmolitor, but the PR already suggests to add both
moparisthebest
fine with me too :) I think both would have the same results
moparisthebest
also fine with adding both...
larma
So I guess both are fine with being an author, otherwise they'd have probably already complained about being added as an author as part of the PR
daniel
so we'd be voting on merging the PR as is which automatcally makes both authors?
jonas’
can I get a link to "the PR"?
tmolitor
Yeah mattj did add/change some parts, too (especially those about client ID)
larma
jonas' https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1214
daniel
yes
larma
I'd like to vote to make both an author *independently* of merging the PR. As soon as they're author, they have all rights to accept the PR without involving council.
daniel
or if council doesn’t want to tie it to that specific PR we could just make them both authors
daniel
larma, fair
jonas’
for simplicity, I'd appreciate if we could at least informally agree (with tmolitor) that authorship implies merging the PR
jonas’
I'd rather not have that in two steps
tmolitor
Fine by me
moparisthebest
I think the formality is a bit too much, we want them author, we want that merged, don't care how it's done let's just vote :)
daniel
ok. can I have your votes on: Adding MattJ and tmolitor co-authors of XEP-0388
moparisthebest
+1 and +1
jonas’
+1 and +1
daniel
+1
jonas’
(let's get this thing moving)
larma
+1
daniel
Ge0rG, ?
larma
I'd like to point out that XEP-0428 Fallback Indication / https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1188 has the very same issue of being stuck
daniel
larma, OK if i add that as an agenda item for next week? (adding you as an author)
larma
sure, if you feel we can't do it today
moparisthebest
I'm +1 on adding larma as author on '428 now or next week
daniel
I feel like we lost half of council members; we are running up on the time limit; and doing it next week just gives people a moment to familiarize themselves with that situtation
daniel
ok it seems like Ge0rG is gone. If you could vote on the authorship thing some time during that week that would be great
daniel
asuming no other AOB?
Ge0rG
I'm sorry
Ge0rG
+1 to add MattJ and tmolitor as co-authors of XEP-0388