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emus
Hey XEP experts, if anyone can support highlighting what of the xep listed above stands out as "highlights" in the recent years, that would be a great support. If anything is missing please add. I focused onoy on new, proposed, proto and stable 🙏
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Ge0rG
last week's lines in the spreadsheet of doom are all crossed through, what's the matter with that? Should I still vote?
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flow
maybe because of the upcoming council eleection?
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Ge0rG
does it mean all votes are postponed until next council, or does it mean we need to complete voting before the election is finished?
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daniel
let me check. but that's likely just a weird glitch
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daniel
doesn’t mean anything
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daniel
for some reason google sheets defaults to strike through when adding a new line
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daniel
I wanted to start voting last week (even though I couldn’t be there) to get the votes through before the council period ends
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daniel
tmolitor, the scram upgrade tasks xep depends on the new version of sals2, no?
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daniel
because of xml elements vs base64?
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daniel
and/or task data simply not existing
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jonas’
.
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daniel
It's time
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daniel
1) Roll call
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moparisthebest
hello!
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jonas’
here
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larma
👋️
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daniel
Ge0rG?
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Ge0rG
hi
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daniel
2) Agenda bashing
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daniel
I assume nothing to bash
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daniel
3) Editors updates
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daniel
no new updates this week
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daniel
4) Items for voting
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daniel
none
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daniel
5) Pending votes
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daniel
everyone but jonas’ on scram upgrade tasks
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Ge0rG
I'm still on list, but I have one question regarding Pubsub Signing
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daniel
I'm on list. this depends on on unresolved sasl 2 situation. which we might resolve soon
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moparisthebest
on-list
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larma
also on-list
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daniel
pubsub signing is pending from moparisthebest Ge0rG and me
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daniel
on-list
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moparisthebest
on-list
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daniel
you had a question (to whom?) Ge0rG ?
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Ge0rG
I've just had a brief skim, and it looks like the signed content is embedded into the <sign-data> element, which is good. but it also claims to be backward-compatible, so is another (unsigned) copy of the element put somewhere else?
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larma
The <sign-data> element is only for what is signed, it doesn't actually appear on wire
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larma
and the signature only shows in a pubsub attachment. clients fetching the node without the attachment don't see any difference (hence it's backwards compatible)
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Ge0rG
larma: ah, thanks. I'll do another in-depth read based on that!
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daniel
ok I assume everyone who hasn’t voted already is on list for either of the two pubsub signing xeps?
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daniel
moving on then
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Ge0rG
yes, on-list
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daniel
everyone except jonas’ is pending on Fast
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daniel
+1
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moparisthebest
+1 on fast
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larma
This also depends on sasl2, no?
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tmolitor
> tmolitor, the scram upgrade tasks xep depends on the new version of sals2, no? > because of xml elements vs base64? Yes it does
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tmolitor
Like bind2 and by extension fast, too
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Ge0rG
on-list
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larma
on-list
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daniel
because of the change with <inline/>? yes that's unfortunate
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daniel
mhh yes I'll retract my +1 for now
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daniel
6) Date of next
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daniel
+1w wfm
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larma
+1w wfm
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moparisthebest
+1 wfm
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tmolitor
We really need Dave to react :/
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moparisthebest
we have pretty good consensus to just do it, why don't we just do it ?
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jonas’
+1w wfm
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Ge0rG
+1w wfm
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daniel
7) AOB
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daniel
I have some
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daniel
do we want to do something about the SASL 2 situation?
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moparisthebest
yes, let's change it and move forward
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jonas’
I poked MattJ as I promised last week. Except I did it only just now.
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jonas’
but given that dwd didn't reply to the email yet, we can also go ahead and add another author
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moparisthebest
can we vote to add MattJ as author ?
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daniel
does he want to be an author?
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jonas’
don't we have to add tmolitor instead?
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tmolitor
Honestly most of the new sasl2 stuff is from me
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daniel
yeah that would be the other candidate
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larma
At least tmolitor, but the PR already suggests to add both
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moparisthebest
fine with me too :) I think both would have the same results
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moparisthebest
also fine with adding both...
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larma
So I guess both are fine with being an author, otherwise they'd have probably already complained about being added as an author as part of the PR
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daniel
so we'd be voting on merging the PR as is which automatcally makes both authors?
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jonas’
can I get a link to "the PR"?
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tmolitor
Yeah mattj did add/change some parts, too (especially those about client ID)
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larma
jonas' https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1214
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daniel
yes
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larma
I'd like to vote to make both an author *independently* of merging the PR. As soon as they're author, they have all rights to accept the PR without involving council.
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daniel
or if council doesn’t want to tie it to that specific PR we could just make them both authors
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daniel
larma, fair
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jonas’
for simplicity, I'd appreciate if we could at least informally agree (with tmolitor) that authorship implies merging the PR
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jonas’
I'd rather not have that in two steps
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tmolitor
Fine by me
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moparisthebest
I think the formality is a bit too much, we want them author, we want that merged, don't care how it's done let's just vote :)
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daniel
ok. can I have your votes on: Adding MattJ and tmolitor co-authors of XEP-0388
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moparisthebest
+1 and +1
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jonas’
+1 and +1
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daniel
+1
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jonas’
(let's get this thing moving)
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larma
+1
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daniel
Ge0rG, ?
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larma
I'd like to point out that XEP-0428 Fallback Indication / https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1188 has the very same issue of being stuck
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daniel
larma, OK if i add that as an agenda item for next week? (adding you as an author)
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larma
sure, if you feel we can't do it today
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moparisthebest
I'm +1 on adding larma as author on '428 now or next week
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daniel
I feel like we lost half of council members; we are running up on the time limit; and doing it next week just gives people a moment to familiarize themselves with that situtation
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daniel
ok it seems like Ge0rG is gone. If you could vote on the authorship thing some time during that week that would be great
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daniel
asuming no other AOB?
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Ge0rG
I'm sorry
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Ge0rG
+1 to add MattJ and tmolitor as co-authors of XEP-0388
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daniel
thanks. that means that votes has passed
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daniel
8) Close
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daniel
thank you all
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tmolitor
Thanks
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jonas’
thanks daniel
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moparisthebest
thanks all!
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larma
thanks all!
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Ge0rG
thanks daniel and sorry for my lag