XMPP Council - 2023-02-08


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  105. moparisthebest

    I may or may not be online for the meeting today, only time will tell

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  113. daniel

    Hi

  114. daniel

    It's time

  115. larma

    👋️

  116. daniel

    1) roll call

  117. Ge0rG

    Good morning

  118. moparisthebest

    time worked out, hello

  119. jonas’

    .

  120. jonas’

    o/

  121. daniel

    That’s everyone

  122. daniel

    2) Agenda bashing

  123. daniel

    nothing to bash this week

  124. daniel

    3) Editors updates

  125. daniel

    just going to copy paste this from the email: * UPDATED: XEP-0353 (Jingle Message Initiation) (https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html) * UPDATED: XEP-0426 (Character counting in message bodies) (https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0426.html) * UPDATED: XEP-0444 (Message Reactions) (https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html) * UPDATED: XEP-0461 (Message Replies) (https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0461.html) * UPDATED: XEP-0474 (SASL SCRAM Downgrade Protection) (https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0474.html) * Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2023 (https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/cs-2023.html)

  126. daniel

    4) Items for voting

  127. daniel

    a) Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2023

  128. Ge0rG

    +1, obviously

  129. jonas’

    +1, discussing under the XSF umbrella is always nice

  130. daniel

    +1

  131. moparisthebest

    +1

  132. larma

    +1

  133. Ge0rG

    I noted that Tedd had some remarks that I'll address after the proposal gets through

  134. Ge0rG is also going to ignore the /me discussion... for now

  135. daniel

    awesome. that means it passed

  136. daniel

    and yes I was about to say that Tedd had some good remarks

  137. daniel

    b) Issue Last Call on XEP-0334: Message Processing Hints

  138. jonas’

    I'm sure this will be fun

  139. jonas’

    I remotely recall some heated debate about this years ago

  140. jonas’

    +1 for having one

  141. moparisthebest

    +1

  142. daniel

    +1

  143. larma

    Yes, but time has changed and people get older

  144. larma

    +1

  145. Ge0rG

    I vaguely remember blocking that XEP before, because it should not define the semantics of the different hints but merely the syntax, but then it's rather shallow.

  146. daniel

    wrt the heated debates I think the situation has changed too. XEPs that use it have become more mature etc

  147. Ge0rG

    anyway, not going to block heated debates, so +1 for LC

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  149. Ge0rG

    it was never the point of immature XEPs, it was a point of "hints can't tell you how to process every kind of hint"

  150. Ge0rG

    conceptually, hints belong into the respective XEP that can define their meaning and consequences

  151. daniel

    OK. passed so it means the editors can go ahead

  152. Ge0rG

    personally, I wish Hints never had existed.

  153. daniel

    5) Pending votes

  154. daniel

    none

  155. Ge0rG

    the Carbons hints situation still is a horrible mess.

  156. daniel

    6) Date of Next

  157. daniel

    +1w wfm

  158. Ge0rG

    +1w wfm

  159. larma

    +1w wfm

  160. daniel

    well carbons might go away soon...

  161. moparisthebest

    +1w wfm

  162. Ge0rG

    NOOOO!!!!111

  163. jonas’

    +1w wfm

  164. Ge0rG

    (in the voice of Luke Skywalker, obviously)

  165. daniel

    7) AOB

  166. jonas’

    (obviously, G.L.)

  167. jonas’

    none from me

  168. moparisthebest

    (don't you mean darth vader?)

  169. moparisthebest

    no aob here

  170. Ge0rG

    moparisthebest: you know it's true!

  171. Zash

    (don't you mean you forgot to use <spoiler>)

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  173. daniel

    8) Close

  174. daniel

    thank you everyone. see you next week

  175. jonas’

    o/

  176. moparisthebest

    (I think 4 decades is the cut-off mark where you no longer need to give spoiler warnings)

  177. moparisthebest

    thanks all !

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  226. emus

    I assume Council took note of my message? ^

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  281. emus

    Dear Council, any XEP highlights the recent time to announce? CC: MattJ

  282. daniel

    The 2023 compliance suite got accepted as experimental today

  283. daniel

    Other than that I feel like the last weeks have been rather quiet

  284. Zash

    Everyone's probably been gearing up for Summit & FOSDEM and are now winding down.

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  288. emus

    Thanks, thought so too. I have a problem with access to the twitter account, need to see whats going on. but not tonight anymore. bye bye

  289. Zash

    Someone in a totally unrelated community said Twitter appears broken.

  290. emus

    I see

  291. moparisthebest

    Are you using some app or whatever? They are killing the API

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