I may or may not be online for the meeting today, only time will tell
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daniel
Hi
daniel
It's time
larma
👋️
daniel
1) roll call
Ge0rG
Good morning
moparisthebest
time worked out, hello
jonas’
.
jonas’
o/
daniel
That’s everyone
daniel
2) Agenda bashing
daniel
nothing to bash this week
daniel
3) Editors updates
daniel
just going to copy paste this from the email:
* UPDATED: XEP-0353 (Jingle Message Initiation)
(https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html)
* UPDATED: XEP-0426 (Character counting in message bodies)
(https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0426.html)
* UPDATED: XEP-0444 (Message Reactions)
(https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html)
* UPDATED: XEP-0461 (Message Replies)
(https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0461.html)
* UPDATED: XEP-0474 (SASL SCRAM Downgrade Protection)
(https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0474.html)
* Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2023
(https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/cs-2023.html)
daniel
4) Items for voting
daniel
a) Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Compliance Suites 2023
Ge0rG
+1, obviously
jonas’
+1, discussing under the XSF umbrella is always nice
daniel
+1
moparisthebest
+1
larma
+1
Ge0rG
I noted that Tedd had some remarks that I'll address after the proposal gets through
Ge0rGis also going to ignore the /me discussion... for now
daniel
awesome. that means it passed
daniel
and yes I was about to say that Tedd had some good remarks
daniel
b) Issue Last Call on XEP-0334: Message Processing Hints
jonas’
I'm sure this will be fun
jonas’
I remotely recall some heated debate about this years ago
jonas’
+1 for having one
moparisthebest
+1
daniel
+1
larma
Yes, but time has changed and people get older
larma
+1
Ge0rG
I vaguely remember blocking that XEP before, because it should not define the semantics of the different hints but merely the syntax, but then it's rather shallow.
daniel
wrt the heated debates I think the situation has changed too. XEPs that use it have become more mature etc
Ge0rG
anyway, not going to block heated debates, so +1 for LC
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Ge0rG
it was never the point of immature XEPs, it was a point of "hints can't tell you how to process every kind of hint"
Ge0rG
conceptually, hints belong into the respective XEP that can define their meaning and consequences
daniel
OK. passed so it means the editors can go ahead
Ge0rG
personally, I wish Hints never had existed.
daniel
5) Pending votes
daniel
none
Ge0rG
the Carbons hints situation still is a horrible mess.
daniel
6) Date of Next
daniel
+1w wfm
Ge0rG
+1w wfm
larma
+1w wfm
daniel
well carbons might go away soon...
moparisthebest
+1w wfm
Ge0rG
NOOOO!!!!111
jonas’
+1w wfm
Ge0rG
(in the voice of Luke Skywalker, obviously)
daniel
7) AOB
jonas’
(obviously, G.L.)
jonas’
none from me
moparisthebest
(don't you mean darth vader?)
moparisthebest
no aob here
Ge0rG
moparisthebest: you know it's true!
Zash
(don't you mean you forgot to use <spoiler>)
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daniel
8) Close
daniel
thank you everyone. see you next week
jonas’
o/
moparisthebest
(I think 4 decades is the cut-off mark where you no longer need to give spoiler warnings)
moparisthebest
thanks all !
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emus
I assume Council took note of my message? ^
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emus
Dear Council,
any XEP highlights the recent time to announce?
CC: MattJ
daniel
The 2023 compliance suite got accepted as experimental today
daniel
Other than that I feel like the last weeks have been rather quiet
Zash
Everyone's probably been gearing up for Summit & FOSDEM and are now winding down.
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emus
Thanks, thought so too.
I have a problem with access to the twitter account, need to see whats going on. but not tonight anymore.
bye bye
Zash
Someone in a totally unrelated community said Twitter appears broken.
emus
I see
moparisthebest
Are you using some app or whatever? They are killing the API