XMPP Council - 2023-04-26

  1. moparisthebest

    here are my missing votes: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-scram-upgrade.html - +1 https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1215/files - +1 https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/content-types.html - +1 - I have nits and suggestions on this one, but we can discuss/propose as a XEP

  2. jonas’

    I got held up at work

  3. daniel

    it’s time

  4. daniel

    1) roll call

  5. larma


  6. jonas’

    I'll try to look at things here with some partial atetntion

  7. moparisthebest


  8. daniel

    no worries jonas’

  9. daniel

    is Ge0rG here?

  10. Ge0rG

    Hi, I'm still in a call, will be here in a moment

  11. daniel

    2) Agenda bashing

  12. daniel

    nothing to bash

  13. daniel

    3) Editors update

  14. daniel

    nothing new this week

  15. daniel

    note to self to copy our decisions from the spreadsheet to github though

  16. daniel

    4) Items for voting

  17. daniel

    a) XEP-0424: Remove dependency on XEP-0422 'Message Fastening' (https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1270)

  18. daniel


  19. moparisthebest


  20. Kev

    > note to self to copy our decisions from the spreadsheet to github though Or other mechanism (e.g. mail) if that's more convenient :)

  21. larma

    What are we voting on, even?

  22. daniel

    larma, what do you mean?

  23. Kev

    Wasn't it the case that 424 and 425 were rejected in last call, and Council needed to let me know if it was a Rejection or back to Experimental or something? I forget.

  24. daniel

    wait i thought both are stable?

  25. larma

    What Kev said

  26. larma

    No, they are not

  27. Kev

    Both appear to be Proposed. They failed their Council vote, I'm told, but I don't know which of the two outcomes they failed with.

  28. larma

    Council decided to not advance them to stable but did not decide what else to do with it

  29. daniel

    ah I see. sorry I was confused. I thought those were stable and we were voting on merging the PR

  30. daniel

    ok let's scrap the vote on (a)

  31. larma

    If it was Stable, I would clearly be against that change, as this is not a change we can make to a stable XEP (otherwise it wouldn't be stable at all)

  32. Kev

    Probably my fault, sorry.

  33. daniel

    and vote instead of moving XEP-0422 back to experimental

  34. larma


  35. daniel

    and vote instead of moving XEP-0424 back to experimental

  36. daniel


  37. moparisthebest

    Then +1 :)

  38. larma

    I'm +1 on that 🙂

  39. jonas’

    (ok, I notice I cannot pay enough attention, please don't block on me today)

  40. Ge0rG

    +1 on moving to experimental

  41. daniel


  42. daniel

    thank you.

  43. daniel

    can I get your votes on 'Move XEP-0425 back to experimental'

  44. daniel


  45. larma


  46. Ge0rG


  47. moparisthebest


  48. daniel

    5) Pending votes

  49. daniel


  50. daniel

    6) Date of next

  51. Ge0rG

    +1W WFM

  52. moparisthebest

    +1w wfm

  53. larma

    +1w wfm

  54. daniel

    I’m here next week. but heads up that I’m on vacation the two weeks after that (the 9th and the 16th)

  55. Ge0rG

    that's great, I'm on vacation just a few weeks later :D

  56. larma

    You mean 10th and 17th?

  57. daniel


  58. daniel

    i’ll take that as a sign that I actually need the vacation

  59. daniel

    7) AOB

  60. moparisthebest

    Aob: I assume you got my pending votes I sent last night?

  61. daniel


  62. moparisthebest

    Excellent, thanks, then no more from me

  63. daniel

    OK. I don’t see anyone typing. assuming no other AOB

  64. daniel

    8) Close

  65. daniel

    thanks all

  66. moparisthebest

    Thanks daniel

  67. larma

    Thanks all.

  68. moparisthebest

    I think there's a security hole in the 425 PR btw, put a GitHub comment right before the meeting, will review more later

  69. daniel

    it's an IQ sent to the server; the service can just validate that, no?

  70. daniel

    it's not clients that parse that or something

  71. moparisthebest

    Then it's fine

  72. jonas’

    I'm on vacation next week, but I'll try to make the meeting nontheless

  73. jonas’

    (I'll be off on the last week of may though)