XMPP Council - 2023-04-26


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  7. moparisthebest

    here are my missing votes: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-scram-upgrade.html - +1 https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1215/files - +1 https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/content-types.html - +1 - I have nits and suggestions on this one, but we can discuss/propose as a XEP

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  57. jonas’

    I got held up at work

  58. daniel

    it’s time

  59. daniel

    1) roll call

  60. larma

    👋️

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  62. jonas’

    I'll try to look at things here with some partial atetntion

  63. moparisthebest

    Hello

  64. daniel

    no worries jonas’

  65. daniel

    is Ge0rG here?

  66. Ge0rG

    Hi, I'm still in a call, will be here in a moment

  67. daniel

    2) Agenda bashing

  68. daniel

    nothing to bash

  69. daniel

    3) Editors update

  70. daniel

    nothing new this week

  71. daniel

    note to self to copy our decisions from the spreadsheet to github though

  72. daniel

    4) Items for voting

  73. daniel

    a) XEP-0424: Remove dependency on XEP-0422 'Message Fastening' (https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1270)

  74. daniel

    +1

  75. moparisthebest

    +1

  76. Kev

    > note to self to copy our decisions from the spreadsheet to github though Or other mechanism (e.g. mail) if that's more convenient :)

  77. larma

    What are we voting on, even?

  78. daniel

    larma, what do you mean?

  79. Kev

    Wasn't it the case that 424 and 425 were rejected in last call, and Council needed to let me know if it was a Rejection or back to Experimental or something? I forget.

  80. daniel

    wait i thought both are stable?

  81. larma

    What Kev said

  82. larma

    No, they are not

  83. Kev

    Both appear to be Proposed. They failed their Council vote, I'm told, but I don't know which of the two outcomes they failed with.

  84. larma

    Council decided to not advance them to stable but did not decide what else to do with it

  85. daniel

    ah I see. sorry I was confused. I thought those were stable and we were voting on merging the PR

  86. daniel

    ok let's scrap the vote on (a)

  87. larma

    If it was Stable, I would clearly be against that change, as this is not a change we can make to a stable XEP (otherwise it wouldn't be stable at all)

  88. Kev

    Probably my fault, sorry.

  89. daniel

    and vote instead of moving XEP-0422 back to experimental

  90. larma

    0424

  91. daniel

    and vote instead of moving XEP-0424 back to experimental

  92. daniel

    indeed

  93. moparisthebest

    Then +1 :)

  94. larma

    I'm +1 on that 🙂

  95. jonas’

    (ok, I notice I cannot pay enough attention, please don't block on me today)

  96. Ge0rG

    +1 on moving to experimental

  97. daniel

    +1

  98. daniel

    thank you.

  99. daniel

    can I get your votes on 'Move XEP-0425 back to experimental'

  100. daniel

    +1

  101. larma

    +1

  102. Ge0rG

    +1

  103. moparisthebest

    +1

  104. daniel

    5) Pending votes

  105. daniel

    none

  106. daniel

    6) Date of next

  107. Ge0rG

    +1W WFM

  108. moparisthebest

    +1w wfm

  109. larma

    +1w wfm

  110. daniel

    I’m here next week. but heads up that I’m on vacation the two weeks after that (the 9th and the 16th)

  111. Ge0rG

    that's great, I'm on vacation just a few weeks later :D

  112. larma

    You mean 10th and 17th?

  113. daniel

    yes

  114. daniel

    i’ll take that as a sign that I actually need the vacation

  115. daniel

    7) AOB

  116. moparisthebest

    Aob: I assume you got my pending votes I sent last night?

  117. daniel

    yes

  118. moparisthebest

    Excellent, thanks, then no more from me

  119. daniel

    OK. I don’t see anyone typing. assuming no other AOB

  120. daniel

    8) Close

  121. daniel

    thanks all

  122. moparisthebest

    Thanks daniel

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  124. larma

    Thanks all.

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  126. moparisthebest

    I think there's a security hole in the 425 PR btw, put a GitHub comment right before the meeting, will review more later

  127. daniel

    it's an IQ sent to the server; the service can just validate that, no?

  128. daniel

    it's not clients that parse that or something

  129. moparisthebest

    Then it's fine

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  133. jonas’

    I'm on vacation next week, but I'll try to make the meeting nontheless

  134. jonas’

    (I'll be off on the last week of may though)

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