XMPP Council - 2023-05-12

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  23. Ge0rG

    Zash: is that also true in the US of Copyright?

  24. Ge0rG

    That copyright statement is cargo-culted from there

  25. Zash

    US copyright is everywhere anyway

  26. Ge0rG

    Zash: that's the point

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  41. theTedd

    "For works first published [in the US] on or after March 1, 1989, use of the copyright notice is optional. Before March 1, 1989, the use of the notice was mandatory on all published works." "A copyright notice may still be used as a deterrent against infringement, or as a notice that the owner intends on holding their claim to copyright." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_notice

  42. theTedd

    Lawyers are likely to include it as a matter of routine (probably with a similar feeling of assert-it-or-lose-it with trademarks,) but it's also seen as a defence against 'innocent infringement' ("I didn't know it was copyrighted.")

  43. theTedd

    see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention

  44. Ge0rG

    theTedd: thanks very much, that's enlightening!

  45. Ge0rG

    I've cargo-culted it into so many projects, but none of them I started befire March 1, 1989.

  46. theTedd

    I'd assumed it was required too, which is why I went digging

  47. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    so if its not added its public domain in the US?

  48. Zash

    The main variance is how long it lasts, but it's effectively forever everywhere due to trade agreements and things.

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  51. theTedd

    MSavoritias (fae,ve), all published creative works are automatically copyrighted, even if you don't explicitly state that

  52. Ge0rG

    MSavoritias (fae,ve): it was required some decades ago, but now everything copyrightable is copyrighted implicitly

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  54. Zash

    and for at least 70 years, likely more

  55. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Yeah thats what i thought. well unlicense it is then :/

  56. Ge0rG

    75 years after every contributor has died

  57. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    so linux will be copyrightable forever :P

  58. theTedd

    or 120 years, whichever ends sooner

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