XMPP Council - 2023-08-16

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Hello!

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oh. I almost forgot

1) roll call

Nothing on the agenda this week again.

2) Date of next

+1w wfm

btw pep. I saw that but the process is usually that the editor puts it into the inbox

+1w wfm

+1w wfm

+1w wfm

3) AOB

Nothing here

If we make it a requirement for the XEP to be moved to Inbox by the editor, what do we do about the current editor situation?

hasn’t this always been how the process works?

i didn’t just make that up

Yes, but we used to have an active editor

+1w wfm

are you suggesting we should vote on that xep regardless or are you saying we should do something about the editor situation? ✏

Our previous great editor would go through all pending PRs typically on Tuesday so that they are in Inbox in time for the meeting on Wednesday. I don't see that happening with the current editor situation.

It just feels wrong to delay the discussion about the XEP to an undefined point in time because we fail to get our editor situation resolved.

(then also, with broken mailing list, the main discussion venue is also not available anyways, but that's a different topic) ✏

just the archives

ok; so should I put MUC Token invites on next weeks agenda?

yes, sorry

also yes, I'd propose to put MUC Token Invites on next weeks agenda, regardless if it was moved to inbox by then or not

(since pep. asked for feedback I actually read that last week and would be ready to vote on it now fwiw)

Me too

I would also be fine with voting now

Ok. please vote for 'proposed xmpp extension: muc token invite' (https://bouah.net/specs/muc-token-invite.html)

+1

+1

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on-list

ok Ge0rG and jonas’ on list (or during next weeks meeting)

assuming no further AOB?

none here

Also, while we are at it, can we, as the council, somehow issue a note to the board, that the current editor situation is blocking council / XEP work and thus should be resolved?

Resolved as in: not just wait for it to magically resolve

So I'm going to further automate some editor stuff soonish, and then lovetox and I will volunteer for editor team

as the council liaison that's up to me. i'll do that in the next board meeting ✏

iirc lovetox already volunteered, but I will not until all the possible automation is merged

Thanks

4) Close

thank you all

Thanks Daniel, thanks all.

Basically the solution needs to be to make editor job so easy that anyone can do it in a few clicks, the solution can't be to get another hero to do everything themselves forever /rant :)

Thanks all!

oh I didn't anticipate a vote, sorry

I'm +1, daniel

jonas’, I recorded your vote

daniel, thanks!

While any comments that I don't have enough time spare to do Editor job properly are true, and any efforts to get 'real' Editors onboard are worthwhile, I'd just like to note that even the previous Editors wouldn't always have gotten things from PR through to the inbox and on the Council agenda if they were submitted the day before.

I'm pretty sure nobody is blaming the editors for anything :)

No definitely not, it shouldn't take so much time and fall on 1 person

Thanks all, yeah I had forgotten about the editors step..

Kev, I wasn't blaming you or anyone else volunteering to do editor works. My idea was just to make sure we put this XEP proposal on the Agenda for next week even if none of the editors had time to move it to inbox - so that the current situation has as minimal impact on XEP/Council work as possible.