XMPP Council - 2024-02-13


  1. moparisthebest

    Council time?

  2. dan.caseley

    Council time!

  3. daniel

    1) Roll call

  4. moparisthebest

    Hello!

  5. singpolyma

    Hello

  6. larma

    πŸ‘‹οΈ

  7. dan.caseley

    Hello πŸ™‚

  8. daniel

    2) Agenda Bashing

  9. daniel

    any modifications to the agenda?

  10. daniel

    assuming None

  11. daniel

    3) Editors update

  12. daniel

    none

  13. daniel

    4) Items for voting

  14. daniel

    we have a few items this week

  15. daniel

    a) xep-template: Require accessibility and privacy sections https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1322

  16. dan.caseley

    +1

  17. singpolyma

    +1

  18. daniel

    +1

  19. larma

    I'm not sure if this is really a council matter and also the "required" sections are not actually derived from the template, but +1 anyway

  20. dan.caseley

    (I'm really interested to see how this is going to unfold in practice)

  21. moparisthebest

    So, I'm +1 to the change, but -1 to the impl, we shouldn't ever add more manual work for editors

  22. moparisthebest

    I guess I'm fine with merging and fixing that later but afraid it'll be forgotten :'(

  23. larma

    what manual work for editors is derived from adjusting the template?

  24. daniel

    yes I don’t get what you are saying moparisthebest

  25. moparisthebest

    They have to check if it's filled in for new protoxeps when that should be automated

  26. moparisthebest

    (by triage.sh or similar)

  27. larma

    That's for council to check

  28. daniel

    do they? the entire 'xep has to be complete' only applies on last call

  29. daniel

    when it becomes stable

  30. moparisthebest

    Well we shouldn't have to either... But ok I can be +1 here

  31. moparisthebest

    Oh I don't think this should be enforced on stable which never happens

  32. larma

    Also it being present doesn't imply anything on its content being useful, so automation really doesn't make sense here

  33. moparisthebest

    It should be before council votes on a protoxep, hence why I said editor check

  34. larma

    I see the template mostly as a reminder for people when they write new XEPs

  35. moparisthebest

    I don't think anyone uses the template

  36. moparisthebest

    I and I know many others just copy/paste existing XEPs

  37. larma

    Yes, but still it's good to have that reminder there.

  38. moparisthebest

    It'll totally be forgotten without automation though

  39. moparisthebest

    Anyway, +1, I'll try to fix it later if no one beats me and I don't forget

  40. daniel

    ok. moving on

  41. daniel

    b) Issue Last Call on XEP-0360: Nonzas (are not Stanzas) https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0360.html

  42. daniel

    not a fan of the XEP. but +1 on the last call

  43. dan.caseley

    +1

  44. larma

    moparisthebest, just like we "recently" accepted XEP-0481 as Experimental without seucrity considerations?

  45. moparisthebest

    +1 on last call

  46. larma

    +1

  47. singpolyma

    +1

  48. moparisthebest

    larma: exactly! That's terrible :'(

  49. daniel

    c) new (ish :-)) Proto XEP: XEP-xxxx: MUC Avatars

  50. daniel

    https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-avatars.html

  51. singpolyma

    +1

  52. larma

    +1

  53. dan.caseley

    +1

  54. daniel

    +1

  55. moparisthebest

    +1 (it's missing new sections 🀣)

  56. daniel

    5) Pending votes

  57. daniel

    - Dan on starting Start Last Call on XEP-0392: Consistent Color Generation

  58. dan.caseley

    Also +1 πŸ™‚

  59. daniel

    6) Date of Next

  60. dan.caseley

    +1w wfm

  61. daniel

    I’m traveling for work next week. I will try to be available at 1600Z

  62. moparisthebest

    +1w wfm (+2w almost certainly won't)

  63. singpolyma

    +1w wfm

  64. larma

    +1w wfm

  65. daniel

    7) AOB

  66. dan.caseley

    Thanks everyone for well wishes on the new job. It's going ace.

  67. dan.caseley

    (unsure if this qualifies as 'B' at all, but seemed like the right place to put it)

  68. moparisthebest

    Got an update from stpeter on host meta 2, will try to email standards tonight, no other aob from me

  69. daniel

    8) Close

  70. daniel

    Thank you all. see you next week

  71. moparisthebest

    Thanks daniel and all!