XMPP Council - 2024-11-05

Time or did timezones ruin things once again?

Just thinking the same thing

Wait, we're an hour late, aren't we?

It's an hour ago, according to the agenda Daniel sent.

Yes. It's time

1) roll call

Howdy 🙂

Oh no it is indeed an hour late

Have fixed my calendar.

But if we are all here anyway...

Oh good because I would have missed it lol

👋

Is singpolyma around too?

hello​

2) Agenda Bashing

Nothing to bash

3) no editors update

4) Items for voting

a) Move 'XEP-0490: Message Displayed Synchronization' to stable https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0490.html

Is it concerning at all that there are no implementations of the server assist part?​

LC had good turn out. +1

Not at this stage. This may or may not be something I'd remove before final

Oh, one of my team had some errors they noticed in the spec that I forgot to forward. I think they were editorial though, will try to remember to dig them out and send on.

+1​

Yeah, that was a real positive response on the list. +1

Personally I was not a huge fan of server assist and only put it in because people at the summit very explicitly asked for it

So if I goes at final I'm fine with it

+1 also think we should remove non implemented bits before final

fair​

+1

Just for my understanding: do current client implementations have support for server assist?

Yes

Conversations for sure

Monal I'm 50% sure

Does the client need support for it?​

the server just updates the node for you doesn't it?

You need to withhold the pep publish for once

But anyway that makes it accepted. Thanks. Moving on

5) Pending votes moparisthebest: on 3 PubSub proto xeps from last week. ✏

Still gonna be on list :(

Ok

6) date of next

+1w wfm

+1w wfm​

> You need to withhold the pep publish for once Should have been more precise: Do you add the additional displayed marker if the server announces support? ↺

larma: yes I implement the spec.

+1w wfm

Couldn't the server just silently reject it if it implements this?

+1w wfm

moparisthebest: I think the point is to reduce traffic

> Couldn't the server just silently reject it if it implements this? Not the right word... Couldn't the server just do nothing ↺

So you want to know

>> You need to withhold the pep publish for once > Should have been more precise: Do you add the additional displayed marker if the server announces support? Oh yes I see, it's like a different element added to outgoing messages. I don't do that but then I guess it won't break anything then ↺

Makes sense yes

Sorry, comms blip. +1w wfm

7) aob

None here

Assuming no AOB

8) close.

Thank you all

Thanks Daniel!

See you all at 4pm UTC next week 😀

Seriously what TZ is the meeting pegged at?

My Android calendar still has the same bug

Is this still right? https://www.moparisthebest.com/council.html

> Seriously what TZ is the meeting pegged at? UTC

Meeting is on UTC/GMT. That looks right to me.

But today we were an hour late

Because I messed up

I simply forgot and then got confused about the time zone

singpolyma: you are iteam, can we get that html uploaded on xmpp.org maybe :)

I'm only on iteam for dns and mail server so far, heh​

Maybe hold off a few weeks... The next council may pick a new time 😀

Then edit the file :P

Isn't Council term nearly over anyway, and new Council chooses new schedule.

That's what dan.caseley just said (:

I blame the time machine.