XMPP Council - 2025-01-14


  1. goffi

    Daniel, I see that XEP-0424 LC is not mentioned in the agenda, is that because of the origin-id discussion? A new LC will be emitted after the update, right?

  2. Daniel

    Technically the voting period is still open if you want to vote on that. So if anything I would have put it under 'pending votes' instead of restarting the vote or something

  3. Daniel

    But I believe that our last discussion was to the effect that we need at least one more revision

  4. Daniel

    *if* we get that revision before the voting period runs out we might as well vote on it

  5. Daniel

    If not the editor will likely restart LC

  6. goffi

    OK make sense, thanks!

  7. dan.caseley

    > dan.caseley: feel free (but not pressured) to vote on 0421 in between meetings too. +1 I can't work out what my problem is with the paragraph on force enabling, but whatever it is, it's going to be a minor nitpick on wording that shouldn't block this, since we can add clarification text later (right?)

  8. Daniel

    Thanks dan.caseley

  9. Daniel

    Do you have a problem with the language of how that feature is described or with the functionality itself?

  10. Daniel

    I mean the conditions under which this feature would appear are clear to me. From a client POV it's unclear under what circumstances I would need that feature. But whatever 🤷‍♂️

  11. dan.caseley

    Specifically the wording. I feel like there's a possibility that one of the states gets to ambiguity, but I can't spot it.

  12. dan.caseley

    So long as process allows for clarification wording later, pretend I said nothing but '+1'

  13. daniel

    it’s time

  14. daniel

    1) Roll call

  15. goffi

    .o/

  16. dan.caseley

    Here

  17. daniel

    larma, singpolyma are you here too?

  18. singpolyma

    Hi

  19. daniel

    2) Agenda Bashing

  20. daniel

    nothing to bash

  21. daniel

    3) Editors update

  22. daniel

    * Proposed XMPP Extension: GRE Formatter: MIME * Proposed XMPP Extension: GRE Encrypter: OpenPGP * Proposed XMPP Extension: Gateway Relayed Encryption * LAST CALL: XEP-0484 (Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens)

  23. daniel

    4) Items for voting

  24. daniel

    goffi, would you be ok with following the proposal that marvin and myself made?

  25. goffi

    using a single XEP?

  26. daniel

    yes

  27. goffi

    I have read your feedback but haven't had time to answer, sorry (working on non XMPP related stuff today).

  28. daniel

    that‘s fine. that‘s why I'm asking here.

  29. singpolyma

    Im attracted to the goal but unsure about specifying every legacy network as a xep

  30. daniel

    personally i'd probably go +/-0 on the current proto xeps. but if you could merge that into on xep i'm +1

  31. goffi

    I'm OK for a single XEP yes, but I have the feeling that numbers are cheap, and OpenPGP and MIME are separated stuff. My long term goal would be to have a single generic mechanism anyway (webassembly based)

  32. goffi

    Any, this is very experimental stuff, and I expect it to evolve a lot.

  33. goffi

    Anyway, this is very experimental stuff, and I expect it to evolve a lot.

  34. singpolyma

    Is there a benefit to a xep number if it will yet evolve a lot?

  35. dan.caseley

    I think there's a benefit to 1 number

  36. goffi

    yes, to experiment, it a place where current status and specification can be referred.

  37. daniel

    your call. we can let the vote play out to see how other council members feel

  38. daniel

    or i'm quickly going -1 to formally end this one and we wait until you submit one xep

  39. goffi

    sorry somebody was at the door

  40. goffi

    anyway, I'm open to merge in a single one sure.

  41. goffi

    we can maybe discuss it and postpone vote to next week?

  42. goffi

    I think this must be discussed on standard and not in a rush here.

  43. goffi

    I'll answer feedbacks in coming days.

  44. daniel

    ok

  45. daniel

    skipping the votes from the agenda then

  46. daniel

    and moving to

  47. daniel

    5) Pending votes

  48. daniel

    none after dan.caseley voted earlier

  49. daniel

    6) Date of next

  50. daniel

    +1w wfm

  51. goffi

    +1w wfm

  52. singpolyma

    +1w wfm

  53. dan.caseley

    I'll miss next week

  54. dan.caseley

    I'm travelling and attending a family thing all of Tues/Weds

  55. dan.caseley

    But can catch up after the fact

  56. daniel

    noted. thanks

  57. daniel

    7) AOB

  58. goffi

    I'm waiting for Link Mauve feedback on the mailing list for shared XML Editing

  59. goffi

    then I would like to add the PR on next agenda.

  60. daniel

    yes i’m monitoring that. but feel free to ping me again once that has been resolved

  61. goffi

    sure I will.

  62. goffi

    we can see in Brussels if not resolved before.

  63. goffi

    as he will be there.

  64. daniel

    assuming no other AOB?

  65. daniel

    8) Close

  66. goffi

    Thanks Daniel, thanks all.

  67. daniel

    thank you all