XMPP Council - 2025-11-26

OK. Then let this be your reminder that we have a meeting in about 2.5h

It’s time

1) Roll call

👋

hello

dan.caseley, goffi

Howdy!

hi sorry

missed the clock.

2) Agenda

elect a chair elect a liaison to board pick a time for future meetings

Our makeup is entirely unchanged from last session, correct?

Correct

yes

So, assuming daniel is willing to chair, I propose same, same, same

+1

+1

+1

if daniel is still OK for the extra work.

I’m happy to chair. For the record I think that editor and chair being the same person works very well. so if at some point in the future we want to have a different chair I suggest keeping it that way (also doing editor work); but obviously not a requirement

Thanks daniel

ok. meeting stays at Tue 15:30Z. I remain chair. we will start with actual agenda items next week

And we don't say it often enough, but you're doing great at handling all that. ✏

thanks :-) yes sometimes life (or just laziness tbh) gets in the way of sending out agendas in time. but i hope on average it's still fine or at least good enough

100%

I was going to do a speech on how we have been doing a good job with experimental->stable and that we should keep doing that and maybe on top of that also look if we can or should deprecate some stable xeps (just so we don’t end up in a situation where there are too many stable xeps). but then i did some actual checks and turns out that there aren’t that many stable xeps after all and none stood out as not being used anymore. so yeah let's all just keep working at the experimental->stable work

anyway before we wrap up for today: any AOB?

Probably O/T: How do I get a council hat?

It would be good if we could deprecate duplicate XEPs, at least when it's not controversial.

+1

duplicate is not the right term, but you get what I mean.

right. from the pool of experimental I assume then. yeah if there are some obvious canditates why not.

dan.caseley, it's fed from the website json iirc. maybe a question for the infra team. (or was this a joke about you wanting an actual hat?)

> Probably O/T: How do I get a council hat? Isn't that tied into the members.json thing in our repository and prosody (cc MattJ )?

assuming no other AOB?

in that case. Close. thank you all. See you in +6 days.

Thanks daniel, thanks all.

The old Council is dead. Long live the new Council!

Thanks for the tips. Have opened https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/1601 in hopes that'll fix it

I can confirm hats come from https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/data/members.json

If the JSON is correct and it doesn't appear "soon", ping me and I'll prod it

I can't remember how often it updates

Dan was using the JID that is listed in that json structure as the second entry. He just updated the JSON to only have one JID, the one that he's using here. I've merged that change moments ago.

oh, could someone _please_ update the entry for the council meeting in our shared Google calendar thingy. I'm getting notifications for the wrong day, which is annoying (according to the calendar, it is a weekly meeting that starts in 3 minutes from now). Daniel you seem to have permission / own that calendar thing.

Can you send me a direct link or something?

The calendar name seems to be "XSF Events"

That name _may_ be local to my account.

This is the public URL: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=64v3vs15qlalgqv0j7r99ikm1c%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe%2FBrussels

The Calender ID is 64v3vs15qlalgqv0j7r99ikm1c@group.calendar.google.com

(although the Google settings are confusing - i'm hoping that these are the IDs of the shared calender, not something that's all local to my account)

i couldn’t edit it. but it had a delete button which i tried?

I can confirm it's gone from my calendar.

Weird that you couldn't edit it - you were listed as the creator.

Anyway, no calendar item is an improvement over a wrong calendar item. Thanks!

there is now maybe a new one at the correct time?

Yes indeed!

Are you also able to remove the SCAM meetings that have not happened for forever?

The next one is scheduled for december 2. I think the author is pep. not you, so I'm not sure if you have the privs to remove it.

oh it jus disappeared.

thanks