XMPP Council - 2025-12-16

Sorry no official agenda this week but I would like to start the voting on this: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1487

Daniel, I'm missing the context on this change: Is authorization-identifier what everyone implements?

I think slightly more relevantly it's what 388 says

But yes it's also what Conversations uses and that seems to be compatible with a lot of things

Bind 2 is just referring to an element of sasl 2 here.

+1 on this fix

I missed the part where 388 says that if bind happens, full jid should be put in authorization-identifier. I suggest to add an explicit reference to 388§2.6.1 there, so it's clear where this is coming from (notably, that it's not 388 saying that the full jid goes in the authorization-identifier, but that this is actually mandated by 388)

Given how entangled those two are, there are actually surprising little references between them. One basically has to know that SASL/SASL2 in XEP-0386 always refers to XEP-0388 and not some other SASL.

I thought about that but the sentence kinda already says this. It says 'the sasl success including the authorization-identifier' ✏

I mean, in this specific sentence it's referring to the "SASL <success/> element" but it is actually referring to the SASL2 success...

So maybe: a) clean up to use the term SASL2 everywhere and b) add a sentence somewhere very much at the top like 'The term "SASL2" is used to mean the SASL profile specified in &xep0388;'.

It actually is the only use of the term SASL without 2 in the document 😉 ✏

i've updated the PR to say SASL2 in that sentence and a added another reference to 388

It’s time

1) Roll call

👋

.o/

dan.caseley, singpolyma are you here too?

hi

Hi!

2) Agenda bashing

nothing to bash i assume

3) editors update

published IAP and issued a last call for spam reporting

4) Items for voting

a) XEP-0386: It's authorization-identifier not authorization-identity https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1487

notice that i did a minor update since posting this an hour ago

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5) Pending votes

none

6) Date of next

suggesting January 6th

so +3w

January 6th wfm

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notice that editor with a bit of foresight has set the last call date for spam reporting to January 5th. so if you have some down time over the holidays go review that :-)

7) AOB

assuming none

8) Close

thank you all. have some nice holidays. see you next year

Thanks daniel, thanks all. Merry Xmas, Happy New Year, enjoy holidays.