XSF Editor Team - 2017-09-19

friendly poke for any available editor to issue XEP-0368 call for experience :)

moparisthebest, I’m still not sure on how the process works, sorry.

moparisthebest, but I’ll give it a shot now anyways

jonasw, I don't think anyone is, how about just an email like "Subject: Call for Experience: XEP-0368" "The council is going to consider moving this to final and is looking for feedback" or something

I'm bad with words :)

I can’t simply say council is going to do anything unless council said so

that's what xep-0001 says though

XEP-0001 says that the editor (without specifying what triggers this) issues a CFE *before* the XEP is laid before council for advancement.

there’s nothing in XEP-0001 (I thnik, point me to it if I’m wrong) which says that council MUST look at something which has been CFE’d

right, that's what I'm looking to get to happen

I’m still trying to figure out what stops me from issuing CFEs for all (old enough) Draft XEPs at once

oh yea, but it'll be presented to them at least 14 days after anyway

it seems fishy :)

anyways, let’s give this a shot

yea jonasw I'm just trying to push it towards final I only know what xep-1 says and it seems like next step is for editor to send email so :shrug: :)

somebody will complain if we did anything wrong

that's kind of what I figured, if it's wrong, xep-1 should be clarified

you’re the author, right?

yep

okay

there you go, email sent (will take a minute or two to propagate through the list)

thanks much

will also comment on it once the mail got through, I actually implemented it.

oh yea in your client, library, or both?

library

(from which follows, client)

(I didn’t bother with implementing an off switch)

yea I was going to try to pull up all implementations I know about in a mail later

dwd said he implemented it in a server, it's the only s2s implementation I know of, there are a few client ones iirc

it's arguably much more useful for clients

there you go

thanks

368 appendix A - Short Name: NOT_YET_ASSIGNED ... If this is going from draft to final, it's likely never getting one?

(perhaps simply remove that line?)

also, section 4 starts with a undefined referal: "this provides". It being the start of a paragraph titled "Use Cases", makes it unclear if 'this' refers to the entire XEP, or rather the ALPN description in the previous paragraph. I'd reword it slightly.

I think the council assigns a short name when it goes to draft or final.

in unrelated news: I'm going to have a beautiful bike shed. Been working on its plans for years.

xep-0053 suggests short names can be assigned as early as when a xep is published as experimental: "When a XEP is first published in the Experimental state, the XMPP Registrar shall work with the author(s) to mint an appropriate namespace name, which shall be of the form "urn:xmpp:ShortName:0" or, where appropriate, "urn:xmpp:ShortName:SubName:0"

I don't care to much, by the way. I just thought the 'yet' part was misplaced in something that's about to be 'final'