XSF Editor Team - 2020-01-28


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  101. jonas’ clearing the editor queue
  102. pep. Thanks
  103. pep. Sorry I'm not really active lately :x
  104. jonas’ it’s ok
  105. jonas’ I have this scheduled window now, which is fine
  106. pep. Yeah but still. It doesn't have to be only you :)
  107. jonas’ all volunteers
  108. jonas’ hm
  109. jonas’ should change of status Draft -> Deprecated cause a version bump, and if it should, in which digit?
  110. pep. hmm.
  111. jonas’ going with a major version bump, akin to moving to Final
  112. pep. I guess
  113. pep. Which one is that again
  114. pep. Ah the CS
  115. jonas’ yeah
  116. jonas’ https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/886 Editorial Change && Needs Version Block => Ready to Merge
  117. jonas’ otherwise I may overlook it
  118. jonas’ cc @ pep. ^
  119. pep. k
  120. pep. Well Needs Version Block is not ready to merge :p
  121. jonas’ false
  122. jonas’ version block is added by the editor
  123. jonas’ ready to merge is defined as "no acknowledgements needed"
  124. jonas’ > No acknowledgements of other parties are needed anymore. There may be changes to do at merge time.
  125. pep. Ah, ok then we had diverging definitions :)
  126. jonas’ the definition is right below the label name ;)
  127. pep. I didn't even know there were descriptions for these
  128. jonas’ there are more! https://github.com/xsf/xeps/labels
  129. jonas’ :)
  130. jonas’ I put some time into writing them some time ago
  131. pep. Yeah.. I never go there
  132. jonas’ to streamline things
  133. jonas’ they’re also shown in the dropdown below the names tho
  134. pep. k, well I just type part of the name and <Enter> :x
  135. jonas’ at least here, maybe that’s just me?
  136. Kev No, not a major version bump, because that explicitly means it's become Final.
  137. jonas’ https://sotecware.net/images/dont-puush-me/4_DzEj_Ne-G9gUBEITmBdizpYSV746Rih5g8IUaKVk4.png
  138. jonas’ Kev, aaaagh, I hate our versioning!
  139. jonas’ I truly hate it
  140. jonas’ it drives me crazy
  141. jonas’ goes back to roll back things
  142. Kev Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to be too late.
  143. jonas’ sure, not your fault
  144. jonas’ the weird versioning is at fault
  145. jonas’ either way: what’s the right way then?
  146. Kev I don't know what we've done in the past for this, I'm afraid, but I do remember fairly clearly that bumping major version only happens -> Draft -> Final.
  147. Kev Let's see if Xep1 can help.
  148. Kev Right, XEP-0001 is at least clear that things only become 2.0 if they go Final.
  149. Kev That's something, I guess...
  150. jonas’ for certain definitions of "clear" ;)
  151. jonas’ I’ll go with a minor bump then.
  152. Kev Could just do editorial?
  153. Kev On account of there being no change in content?
  154. jonas’ Kev, I would like to ensure that any notifiable event (i.e. which warrants an email) is at least a minor bump
  155. Kev And if it transpires that it needs to be a minor bump instead, it's much easier to add a bigger bump than it is to undo one?
  156. jonas’ I won’t be sending mails for purely editorial changes in the future, and I’ll automate that distinction using the version number.
  157. jonas’ (though, granted, this could also be detected by the change of state)
  158. jonas’ so you’re right
  159. jonas’ let’s do this on the patch level…
  160. jonas’ Kev, thanks for chiming in before I hit the green button :)
  161. Kev Sorry for being a dissenting voice (although I do think it's the right thing to do here).
  162. Kev I haven't found anything in XEP1 yet that helps hint what to do, only what not to do, FWIW>
  163. Kev I haven't found anything in XEP1 yet that helps hint what to do, only what not to do, FWIW.
  164. Kev The last thing to be deprecated was https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0137.html in 2018, when Sam used a minor version bump, FWIW.
  165. Kev Prior to that 2017 https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0136.html when Sam also used minor. Before that https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0130.html in 2012, when Peter did a minor bump.
  166. Kev So if you want to do a minor bump there's certainly plenty of precedent.
  167. Kev (Oh, my ordering is stupid, those aren't the three most recent, but the point probably stands)
  168. jonas’ I’m going with patch level now
  169. jonas’ the tooling can deal with that, I was just confused
  170. Kev Anything other than major is probably fine :)
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