jdev - 2019-12-06

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  200. nykb

    for the Tigase client for ios is it possible to know if a connection is disconnected ?

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  203. nykb

    is there a way to know MessageSendingClient client is disconnected ?

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  205. Wojtek

    @nykb in the settings account has a dot indicating whether it's connected or not (or connecting);

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  208. nykb

    okay i found out the XMPPClient has a variable called state "SocketConnector.State"

  209. nykb

    with this im able to know the state of the client

  210. pep.

    Wojtek, why do you use @ btw? Is that a bug in your client?

  211. nykb

    i was looking for this because , sometimes i try to send messages , but it does not send , i suspected the client was disconnected

  212. nykb

    is it possible to keep the client connected as long at the application is active ?

  213. nykb

    i mean the XMPPClient for swift iOS

  214. nykb

    is it possible to keep it connected ?

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  229. Wojtek

    pep. I guess "force of habit" of mentioning someone from "other places"

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  231. Wojtek

    nykb - it should stay connected as long as it is active (in the foreground, limitation of the iOS). once you push it to the background the os will kill the connection after a short delay

  232. Wojtek

    pep. also - BeagleIM gives you a dropdown with nicknames after typing "@" so it's easier to mention someone

  233. pep.

    Why do you need to send @ on the wire?

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  236. Zash

    Converse.js does this too but doesn't include the @ in the actual message

  237. pep.

    (minus bugs: https://github.com/conversejs/converse.js/issues/1198)

  238. Wojtek

    pep. does it actually matter if it's there or not?

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  240. pep.

    It does. You're putting arbitrary semantics into body

  241. jonas’

    Wojtek, most importantly, some clients will not match in that case

  242. pep.

    Of course it's not the same nick anymore :)

  243. jonas’

    Wojtek, most importantly, some clients will not match for a highlight in that case

  244. Zash

    And it's kinda annoying

  245. pep.

    You'd expect other clients to recognize that arbitrary character and continue operating as if it wasn't there

  246. pep.

    -> arbitrary semantics

  247. Wojtek

    Zash - why it's annoying?

  248. pep.

    Why is "not being highlighted" annoying? (when it's actually aimed at you)

  249. pep.

    Is that a question

  250. Wojtek

    I'd argue that "@" shouldn't be treated as part of word (in the same sense that it's not part of localpart, domain or resource name)

  251. Wojtek

    I thought that "including 'a" per se was annoying, not the consequences

  252. Wojtek

    my bad

  253. jonas’

    Wojtek, but I can have an `@` in my nickname

  254. Link Mauve

    Wojtek, the rules for highlight matching are very ad-hoc, no two clients will do the same.

  255. jonas’

    what if I’m called @pep.?

  256. Link Mauve

    \b or \< in a regex might match the beginning of @pep.’s nick, or not, I’m not sure.

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  258. Link Mauve

    If I wrote about “somethingpep.” you may or may not highlight pep. for instance.

  259. Link Mauve

    Highlighting is still very much not a solved problem.

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  261. Wojtek

    Link Mauve - I know, Beagle for example highlights "sequences of characters" which is convenient in a way (if someone tries to add some sort of flexion to the nickname for example)

  262. Zash

    What if the attention element had a target nickname for muc

  263. Link Mauve

    References do fix that on the sending end, so that for instance when you press Tab to complete “p” into “pep.” it adds said metadata for pep.’s client to understand that this specific chunk of codepoints is a hl to him.

  264. Link Mauve

    Converse.js does use it the way you’re used to, you type @p, enter, and it puts “@pep.” in the input field but on the wire sends “pep.” with a reference attached.

  265. Link Mauve

    Wojtek, right, some languages do declinate names (including nicknames) and using \bnick\b would be very bad in that case.

  266. Wojtek

    jonas’ that's quite tricky

  267. Wojtek

    but as stated - this is very much not solved problem

  268. jonas’

    \bnick\b also breaks with my current nickname

  269. Link Mauve


  270. pep.

    and mine

  271. jonas’


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  313. nykb

    How to detect if XMPPClient connectionConfiguration has set clients credentials >

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  315. nykb

    How to detect if XMPPClient connectionConfiguration has set clients credentials , before login ?

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  319. nykb

    How to detect if XMPPClient connectionConfiguration has set clients credentials , before login when using Tigase Swift ?

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