jdev - 2020-01-22

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  100. leosbrf flow , can you provide the link for the official ejabberd muc?
  101. flow leosbrf, it's well hidden at the end of https://docs.ejabberd.im/get-started/
  102. Link Mauve leosbrf, you can look it up yourself, like any other MUC, at https://search.jabber.network/
  103. flow > lovetox> em, disco info comes to mind? I usually view disco#info results as "this server supports this" and not as "you are allowed to use this feature"
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  105. flow how you discover that you are allowed or not allowed to use a feature is a good question. Typically you should get an error IQ back as response to an attempt to use a feature that, while being supported by the server, is not allowed for your account. Of course that error IQ should include a reasonable condition and a helpful text explaining that you are not allowed to do this because $reason
  106. Guus Zash / MattJ I've been asked to add a feature like Prosody's HTML log viewer to Openfire. Any obvious things I should take into consideration?
  107. Guus things you learned the hard way, when you implemented it?
  108. lovetox flow i think you misunderstood the requirement
  109. lovetox > senders should be aware of the recipient will not be able to answer because of that policy.
  110. lovetox so not the account itself does need that info
  111. lovetox other partys need the capabilities of the other client
  112. lovetox which is exactly what disco info is for
  113. lovetox and for your own capabilities you just disco info your own bare account jid
  114. lovetox which is done all the time, to see if MAM can be used and which version
  115. lovetox or httpupload, or whatever
  116. flow lovetox, right I misunderstood. However, I don't think that this makes my statement wrong.
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  124. lovetox but you are wrong, disco info to your bare jid does not in any way suggest what a server supports or not
  125. lovetox it tells you exactly what your account is able to use or not
  126. Zash Guus: Calendars are complicated. The current one is roughly a MAM query filtered through a template language. I'm kinda happy with that.
  127. lovetox if you want to know what a server supports, you have to disco info the service or host
  128. lovetox domain.org, or conference.domain.org
  129. lovetox or disco items to domain.org
  130. lovetox thats how you find out what a server supports
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  133. flow lovetox, that is potentially true, I believe that capabilities are often more fine-grained than the features returned by disco#info, so I am not sure if this is the right mechanism for that. I could be wrong though
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  138. lovetox you can add as much fine grained caps as you want see, disco info from upload.domain.org, httpupload service
  139. lovetox has a whole dataform with fine grained settings
  140. lovetox like max-file-size
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  152. leosbrf .
  153. leosbrf Hi guys, I'm creating a MUC client and I'm trying to use XEP-0424: Message Retraction, but it is not working. Could anyone help with that? I posted the details on stackoverflow: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59859845/how-to-retract-a-message-in-ejabberd I also posted it on the ejabberd official muc, but still did not get an answer. Thanks.
  154. larma leosbrf, have you read the big red warning at the beginning of https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0424.html
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  157. larma I doubt any server supports 0424 tombstones. They are also not strictly required because the receiving client should receive both, the message and the retraction message
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  159. larma If you want to ensure the retraction message appears in MAM, you probably need add a store hint when sending it (`<store xmlns="urn:xmpp:hints"/>`)
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  206. leosbrf thanks larma
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