jdev - 2020-01-26

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  65. Link Mauve xmppnoob, you may also be interested in starting from an existing client, rather than writing everything from scratch.
  66. Link Mauve Also on mobile.
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  123. rion Which sides sends ibb open for a jingle transport? A session initiator or a transport creator? They are not always the same
  124. rion It can be also content creator. So one of three
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  127. rion Seems like it's always session initiator according to the diagram in the xep. So doesn't matter which side added the content or replaced the transport. Is it so?
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  185. flow lovetox, I just invited someone to a members only room via gajim. It would be great if gajim would asked if I want to make the bare jid a member prior inviting. Do you want me to create a feature request (if there is none already)?
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  187. lovetox does that question make sense?
  188. lovetox there is no choice there
  189. jonas’ I think it should simply always do that if it can, and use mediated + warning if it can’t
  190. flow well I could be unware that it's a members only room, but fair point
  191. lovetox of course the whole topic is a bit of a mess
  192. lovetox and one of the topics in xmpp that you cant do right in all circumstances
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  195. lovetox this definitly deserves a wiki entry
  196. lovetox i will soon touch that code in Gajim then i will look into it
  197. lovetox first question to me would be if servers show muc#roomconfig_allowinvites in disco info
  198. lovetox or if i need to pull the config, which is impossible as non admin
  199. lovetox if servers dont expose that, i would simple disallow any non admin to invite people into a member-only room
  200. lovetox and as an admin, i would use a mediated invite, and hope the server implements adding the invitee automatically
  201. MattJ I think prosody exposes that in disco
  202. lovetox really the whole room config should be exposed, i see no sense in hiding it
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  205. MattJ Password and all :)
  206. lovetox ok you found one :
  207. lovetox ok you found one :D
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  220. jonas’ lovetox, some room config may also be anti-abuse, and those options should typically be hidden
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  229. lovetox hm i read the RFC and for me its clear, but just to be sure i ask
  230. lovetox a roster push item, is never a diff
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  232. lovetox means i can fill all attributes that are not in the item
  233. lovetox with default values
  234. jonas’ it replaces the previous item for that JID, except if it’s set to "delete", then it removes that item
  235. jonas’ essentially
  236. lovetox yeah i meant when i receive the push
  237. lovetox but i guess its the same
  238. lovetox ok then i dont know why i added that weird code i found
  239. lovetox especially the question is about "name" attr
  240. lovetox say a roster item has a name="Romeo"
  241. lovetox and i change this roster item, but modify only the groups
  242. lovetox the server must always include name=Romeo, in the following pushes
  243. lovetox or not?
  244. lovetox even if the update didnt modify the name attr
  245. MattJ lovetox: the push contains the full entry
  246. lovetox yeah thanks thats what i was looking for
  247. lovetox you formulated with one sentence what i tried to describe with 10 :d
  248. MattJ So if name existed and is missing in the push, that means it was removed
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