jdev - 2020-03-30

Is there a tool available to create a MUC and set a JID as admin via command line? (see https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/Community/issues/38 🤩 ).

as server admin? probably, look at server docs

Prosody exposes its internal MUC API over mod_admin_telnet, if that’s a thing you want to use.

There's at least one CLI XML console thing

Why don't we just add an ad-hoc command for creating rooms?

DebXWoody: You could even do some integration and have it automagically create rooms for each project

You could do anything!

Hmmmmm

If you know the JID of the owner(s) of $project then you could reject creation of a $project@muc.host unless it's them. Or reassign ownership on creation.

So many options!

can someone join tigase@muc.tigase.org?

seems down for me

@lovetox works for me

from which server do you try to join?

ah damn

s2s?

from one with expired cert

thats probably the problem

thanks

:D

well, it should be possible to use dialback still

hm do i have to setup something special on my server for this to work?

Huh, odd, it closed the connection

@lovetox if you didn't disable dialback then it should work just fine; however if you have expired certificate we would still advertise sasl-external (we changed that recently, but it's not deployed yet) so if your server decied to use sasl-external then it would fail -- but it would be better to check actuall logs

@Zash `muc.tigase.org`?

s2s disconnected: expired.badxmpp.eu->muc.tigase.org (closed)

badxmpp.eu feature request: thing to trigger outgoing s2s

@Zash how does that (tester) work? if this indicates expired certificate then it seems to be ok here: ``` notBefore=Mar 3 18:06:36 2020 GMT notAfter=Jun 1 18:06:36 2020 GMT ```

huh

where do you see that?

https://paste.debian.net/1137435/ logs from that end fwiw

Wojtek, xmpp:expired.badxmpp.eu has an expired cert, intentionally for testing against

See https://badxmpp.eu/ and https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2020-March/090417.html in case you haven't seen that

@Zash uhm... I was checking muc.tigase.org - didn't grasp intent of badxmpp.eu at first :-)

Wojtek, im on the hunt for a bug in tigases muc impl

i found this https://paste.gajim.org/view/5c9b99b7

i have to check the XEP but i dont think thats legal

"MUC component is disconnected."!?

yeah dont know what that should mean

What's going on? Being kicked because the MUC component went down?

whats weird first is status code 332

in the XEP it says

Inform user that he or she is being removed from the room because the MUC service is being shut down

so this seems it should only be broadcasted to the kicked occupant

not all other occupants

but i guess its open to interpretation, because this status code and its use is nowhere mentioned in the XEP

I checked our sources and there is nothing that says: "MUC component is disconnected."

What about "%s component is disconnected." or similar?

would my server fake a presence from a room im connected?!

sounds weird

my colleague was doing some maintenance on our instances that could result in such information to user (so they wouldn't remain in a state thinking they are in the room)

so it has to be from tigase

ok, case sensitive search - got it and yes - it's due to maintance

ok further whats weird is this stanza not missing the affiliation='none' ?

either way this went not like you wanted

the MUC didnt seem to kick me, but told me about all other people beeing kicked

with a status code thats not meant for me to be received

a little bit of context: tigase.org is a cluster installation, and when one of the nodes goes down we generate notification about those occupants that are connected to the node that is being disconnected

so status code in this case fits

yes true forget about the status code

text around that is weird in the xep

but what about the missing affiliation?

well, 'none' is lack of affiliation so if you didn't have affiliation do we *have to* include affiliation='none'?

yes

read 5.2 Affiliations (XEP-0045)

> Information about affiliations MUST be sent in all presence stanzas generated or reflected by the room and sent to occupants

@lovetox added missing attritubte in this case (and there shouldn't be more disconnects today...)

nice thanks

just for reference on my bug tracker, in what version will this land?

8.1.0, but this only applies to installations that use ACS