jdev - 2020-08-13

hm, regarding UserActivity and UserMood

right now Gajim deletes both from pep when we go offline

how much sense does this make in a multi device setup?

good question

i see the idea that it does not make much sense to have this info published if im not online

i could check if another client is online, and only delete if im the last

If anything I think these should have some kind of timeout, after which they're reset.

yeah my timeout was "i go offline"

is there not a timeout feature in pubsub

poezio behaves the same way I think, clearing PEP on exit

Hehe, are you sure? Maybe if you refresh the page a few times it'll appear.

hah

https://lab.louiz.org/poezio/poezio/-/issues/3467 poezio also fails to clear these nodes when not connected. (weird!)

<field var='pubsub#item_expire' type='text-single' label='Number of seconds after which to automatically purge items. `max` for no specific limit other than a server imposed maximum.'/> <field var='pubsub#itemreply'

Hahaha!

given that you can’t even always control when you’re going offline, the right thing™ would be to fix this on the recipient or server side, wouldn’t it?

lol

probably no server implements it

And some are gonna rant about 'max' again anyway :p

Hrrr

but not my problem i guess

i publish this with 24 hour expire

:)

Wait was that sneaked in with the max_items change?

Zash, I doubt it

can this be used as a publish-options thing?

and it’s not clear to me if the timer is reset on every config change/item publish

Publish options would be cool indeed

jonas everything in the config form can be used as publish options

jonas’, yeah that'd be good to know

And not "implementation defined"

but server tend to only support some config options as publish options

activity = in a meeting, expire = 1h etc

lovetox, but then it affects the entire node, I suppose

lovetox, so you're gonna keep a timer and republish every 24h?

yeah thats good, as this node has only one item

pep., why would i republish

For these OG extended presence things that's fine

i tell the user, this activity holds for 24 hours

afterwards you have to set something new yourself

ok

I think I've seen this kind of thing in other chat things.

yes whatsapp does this with status messages

At least setting "busy" that expires after a while

only valid for 24 hours

Someone™ still has to write the XEP about moving the rest of <presence> stuff into PEP

Yeah, sorry.

ok ejabberd supports this config option not at all

and prosody also not

of course good things can not be happen

file feature request

<field var='pubsub#purge_offline' type='boolean' label='Whether to purge all items when the relevant publisher goes offline'/>

this is also intersting

Ha!

That is easier to implement too

yeah but not that nice ..

the delay thingy is definitly nicer

If it's bound to the session it'd be weird if stuff gets reset because you got temporarily disconnected

stream management saves you

do i miss something or does pubsub not hold the publication date somewhere

can i get the time something was published?

not out of the box

https://nl.movim.eu/?node/pubsub.movim.eu/Dino :)

what do you think about multiline status messages

should a client allow them or not?

currently Gajim does a to_one_line() on user input

but im not sure i should, clients which can only show oneline can format the text themself when displaying