jdev - 2020-08-13

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  137. lovetox hm, regarding UserActivity and UserMood
  138. lovetox right now Gajim deletes both from pep when we go offline
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  140. lovetox how much sense does this make in a multi device setup?
  141. Zash good question
  142. lovetox i see the idea that it does not make much sense to have this info published if im not online
  143. lovetox i could check if another client is online, and only delete if im the last
  144. Zash If anything I think these should have some kind of timeout, after which they're reset.
  145. lovetox yeah my timeout was "i go offline"
  146. lovetox is there not a timeout feature in pubsub
  147. Zash poezio behaves the same way I think, clearing PEP on exit
  148. Zash Hehe, are you sure? Maybe if you refresh the page a few times it'll appear.
  149. jonas’ hah
  150. pep. https://lab.louiz.org/poezio/poezio/-/issues/3467 poezio also fails to clear these nodes when not connected. (weird!)
  151. lovetox <field var='pubsub#item_expire' type='text-single' label='Number of seconds after which to automatically purge items. `max` for no specific limit other than a server imposed maximum.'/> <field var='pubsub#itemreply'
  152. Zash Hahaha!
  153. jonas’ given that you can’t even always control when you’re going offline, the right thing™ would be to fix this on the recipient or server side, wouldn’t it?
  154. jonas’ lol
  155. lovetox probably no server implements it
  156. pep. And some are gonna rant about 'max' again anyway :p
  157. Zash Hrrr
  158. lovetox but not my problem i guess
  159. lovetox i publish this with 24 hour expire
  160. jonas’ :)
  161. Zash Wait was that sneaked in with the max_items change?
  162. pep. Zash, I doubt it
  163. jonas’ can this be used as a publish-options thing?
  164. jonas’ and it’s not clear to me if the timer is reset on every config change/item publish
  165. Zash Publish options would be cool indeed
  166. lovetox jonas everything in the config form can be used as publish options
  167. pep. jonas’, yeah that'd be good to know
  168. pep. And not "implementation defined"
  169. lovetox but server tend to only support some config options as publish options
  170. Zash activity = in a meeting, expire = 1h etc
  171. jonas’ lovetox, but then it affects the entire node, I suppose
  172. pep. lovetox, so you're gonna keep a timer and republish every 24h?
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  174. lovetox yeah thats good, as this node has only one item
  175. lovetox pep., why would i republish
  176. Zash For these OG extended presence things that's fine
  177. lovetox i tell the user, this activity holds for 24 hours
  178. lovetox afterwards you have to set something new yourself
  179. pep. ok
  180. Zash I think I've seen this kind of thing in other chat things.
  181. lovetox yes whatsapp does this with status messages
  182. Zash At least setting "busy" that expires after a while
  183. lovetox only valid for 24 hours
  184. Zash Someone™ still has to write the XEP about moving the rest of <presence> stuff into PEP
  185. Kev Yeah, sorry.
  186. lovetox ok ejabberd supports this config option not at all
  187. lovetox and prosody also not
  188. lovetox of course good things can not be happen
  189. Zash file feature request
  190. lovetox <field var='pubsub#purge_offline' type='boolean' label='Whether to purge all items when the relevant publisher goes offline'/>
  191. lovetox this is also intersting
  192. Zash Ha!
  193. Zash That is easier to implement too
  194. lovetox yeah but not that nice ..
  195. lovetox the delay thingy is definitly nicer
  196. Zash If it's bound to the session it'd be weird if stuff gets reset because you got temporarily disconnected
  197. jonas’ stream management saves you
  198. lovetox do i miss something or does pubsub not hold the publication date somewhere
  199. lovetox can i get the time something was published?
  200. jonas’ not out of the box
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  202. edhelas https://nl.movim.eu/?node/pubsub.movim.eu/Dino :)
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  336. lovetox what do you think about multiline status messages
  337. lovetox should a client allow them or not?
  338. lovetox currently Gajim does a to_one_line() on user input
  339. lovetox but im not sure i should, clients which can only show oneline can format the text themself when displaying
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