jdev - 2020-09-05

debacle, remind me in a month ;)

debacle: If jonas’ prepares the packaging and you sponsor the upload will future updates be packaged by you or someone else from the debian-xmpp-team?

The process of bringing a package to debian is still black magic for me. 😂

Martin It's simple :-) jonas’ does the packaging work (also new versions), I check the packages and sponsor all uploads, taking the credit for jonas’ work!

EZ

The XMPP team is, unfortunately, not really a team. More or less: Dominik does the Movim stuff, Boris does Psi, Victor prosody, and I do some smaller tasks/packages.

We are hiring! (But not paying.)

:)

Martin, it’s not that complex and actually quite fun

but also time-consuming

or maybe that’s just me because I’m super scared of accidentally uploading a non-perfect package

Martin, it is *kind of* like XEP editing work!

you take other people’s work, clean it up a little, bring it in shape and push it somewhere :)

- and get the fame! ;-)

well, no

infrastructure people never get the fame ;)

ever heard of a famous plumber?

(also, did you ever feel concern over the closeness of the words "plumber" and "plumbum" a.k.a. lead?)

Something something lead pipes in ancient Rome?

s/ancient Rome/until at least the 1970ies/

> ever heard of a famous plumber? Mario Bros. ?

pulkomandy: I was thinking the same. 😂

The number of hoops I had to jump through to get a new version of Swift into Debian was so great we decided to drop it instead. Debian packaging turns out to not be straightforward, even once you've done the work of getting debs that do what you want them to.

If you've got someone offering to do the work for you, absolutely take it :)

Kev, I found the process ok-ish with debacles help

but of course, it depends a lot on your dependencies I suppose

I think it was the point at which people were complaining about the format of our copyright headers and wanting us to change them that I gave up.

My first few uploads were relatively painless, but then I hit one where the list of things I needed to do was just too much to be able to justify the time.

In my experience, packaging simple things can be super simple, while the complexity of packaging tends to grow with the complexity of the thing you're packaging.

I guess it depends a lot on who's involved as well.

It wasn't the resultant package that was the issue, IIRC, but things like the copyright formats, not having linebreaks in the right places in the recipes, etc.

hello

How are you all?