jdev - 2020-09-13


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  577. lovetox refering to https://blog.prosody.im/great-invitations/
  578. lovetox The “magic link” feature provides the most seamless flow. The user follows the link to install the app, and the invite token is magically discovered by the app after it is installed.
  579. lovetox is this something smartphone specific, or is there a technic to make that happen on desktop?
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  581. Ge0rG lovetox: this is a feature of Google Play called install referrers. https://developer.android.com/google/play/installreferrer
  582. lovetox pep., the user tells you its tor, i talk about the case when a user configures the proxy in the client
  583. lovetox if he configures it on the system you can’t know anything anyway, so not much to handle there
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  585. MattJ lovetox: a magic link for desktop is probably possible with certain constraints
  586. MattJ Ge0rG reported that MS Teams even does something along these lines
  587. lovetox yeah seems i can do this on windows
  588. lovetox linux seems a bit impossible
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  590. Ge0rG MattJ: I'm sure the "magic" in MS Teams is that you get a small personalized installer&downloader EXE
  591. MattJ I can imagine downloading a generated install script
  592. lovetox https://nsis.sourceforge.io/ReadCustomerData
  593. lovetox nsis is a popular installer on windows
  594. MattJ Looks neat, that's exactly what's needed
  595. MattJ I'm sure similar could be done on Linux, but it's harder yes :)
  596. MattJ Since there are so many possible Linux environments
  597. lovetox nsis script language is .. i hate it
  598. flow hmm, place magic file in ~/.local/share/$xmpp-client/my-magic-file and execute xmpp-client? question is probably "who does place the magic file?"
  599. lovetox bingo ..
  600. pep. `curl | sudo sh` problem solved!!
  601. MattJ There are so many ways :)
  602. MattJ Scraping browser history
  603. MattJ Ok ok
  604. MattJ Assuming the page remains open, it could also try to connect to a server on localhost
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  606. MattJ And when the XMPP client is installed, it opens a listening port
  607. MattJ And then offers to use the invite instead of the normal account setup flow
  608. MattJ Generating an install.sh is a less sneaky way, probably also the simplest and most adaptable
  609. MattJ But not quite as user-friendly I imagine
  610. MattJ Hmmmmmm
  611. pep. you also need to select your distribution etc.
  612. Zash Do these container/sandbox things support anything suitable?
  613. MattJ I doubt it because they generally aren't installed by default and thus have the same bootstrap issue, unless there are distros where they are installed by default and have a protocol handler
  614. MattJ I just checked whether apt:// allowed custom repositories, apparently not (well not enabled by default anyway)
  615. pulkomandy Could clipboard sniffing work? Detect an xmpp uri in the clipboard and do something?
  616. pulkomandy I think some torrent apps do that for magnet links
  617. MattJ Oooh
  618. lovetox but why would it be in the clipboard?
  619. lovetox clicking a link does not add it to the clipboard
  620. pulkomandy I think javascript can solve that?
  621. MattJ lovetox: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Clipboard_API
  622. MattJ > The clipboard-write permission is granted automatically to pages when they are in the active tab.
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