jdev - 2020-10-07


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  97. mrsanjaya06 HELLO EVERYBODY
  98. mrsanjaya06 DO I CAN SELL CREDIT CARD HERE ?
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  102. ralphm Bye
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  186. o2 real subtle
  187. moparisthebest hey I prefer a straightforward spammer
  188. jonas’ yep, preferring that any day over the 5050-style uncommented OOB-link :)
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  190. Moumen hello
  191. Moumen i have some question about xep201
  192. Zash Now that's a XEP I haven't heard in a long time.
  193. Moumen its about replay
  194. Moumen msg threading
  195. Moumen <message to='romeo@example.net/orchard' from='juliet@example.com/balcony' id='asiwe8289ljfdalk' type='chat' xml:lang='en'> <body>Art thou not Romeo, and a Montague?</body> <thread parent='7edac73ab41e45c4aafa7b2d7b749080'> e0ffe42b28561960c6b12b944a092794b9683a38 </thread> </message>
  196. Moumen here is a chat thread according to the xep
  197. Moumen so if there anyone know about the value of thread and different between it and msg id
  198. Zash Moumen: Nothing to do with message ids
  199. Zash Completely separate
  200. Zash The @parent attribute refers to the value of some other <thread>
  201. Zash Ie they're forking off from a <thread>7edac73ab41e45c4aafa7b2d7b749080</thread>
  202. Moumen oh thanks zash your replay is helpful
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  228. Wojtek question: how to handle situation from xep-0153 when client advertises one hash but query returns image that yields another hash? section 4.2 says that client must not advertise an avatar without downloading it first from the server (that should prevent such problem) but it seems that's not the case
  229. Zash I would handle it by implementing xep-0398 and just overwriting their avatar hash with the correct value.
  230. Zash Hm, wait, it says to not overwrite that.
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  235. Wojtek > Hm, wait, it says to not overwrite that. not? "Presences where the content of the photo element is not empty and not equal to the hash calculated by the service MAY be overwritten." however, this still highly depends on users server - right?
  236. Zash Yes, the users server does that magic based on the XEP-0084 PEP node
  237. Wojtek so, rule of thumb: cache what we calculate and because client can't publish correct hash with presence just re-query the vcard each time such presence is received?
  238. Zash Some kind of rate limit on querying for vcards perhaps?
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  240. Wojtek well, "worst-case-scenario": we could cache the image with the hash received in presence, but I feel this is kinda wrong
  241. Zash Not sure what options there are if other clients are acting weird
  242. Wojtek if that's a mobile client I could understand not wanting to download the avatar before publishing, for example on every connection. but that just breaks things
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  260. Zash So it's beneficial to move towards PEP Avatars and 398, as the server takes care of more of it for you.
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