jdev - 2020-12-06


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  48. jonas’

    also: https://up-for-grabs.net/#/filters?tags=xmpp

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  61. jubalh

    > I want to involve in this organization. Is there any open project to contribute to? Check out profanity;)

  62. jonas’

    (they’re gone already, I just wanted to mention up-for-grabs)

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  129. Sam Whited

    Possibly stupid question about data forms: does the order of the title and instruction fields matter? All the examples put them at the top, and obviously the order of actual fields matters, but can you have a title or instructions anywhere in the form or are they just always at the top?

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  140. Zash

    Probably not, tho I guess internal order fo multiple <instructions> might affect how the form gets presented. I'd actually worry more about multiple <instructions>, don't remember seeing that being allowed before.

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  217. lovetox

    Sam Whited, no

  218. lovetox

    if your question is if you can use it to describe fields

  219. lovetox

    The OPTIONAL <title/> and <instructions/> elements enable the form-processing entity to label the form as a whole ..

  220. lovetox

    this sentence implies for me instruction and title is for a form, and not for fields

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  223. lovetox

    so yes you can put the instruction somewhere between fields, but its still a instruction for the form and not for the filed

  224. lovetox

    and clients have a special place where the put the form instruction in the GUI

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  227. Zash

    <field>s have a <desc> tag for long-form field description

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  230. Zash

    There's <field type=fixed> for "headings" within the form

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  238. Sam Whited

    Sounds good to me, thanks.

  239. Sam Whited

    I'm not sure how the spec means it to be, but as long as no one else is allowing instructions to be scattered around the form.

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  242. lovetox

    you can scatter them, but i can only talk for Gajim, you cant control with that where i display them

  243. lovetox

    its for the form, and i place them at the top no matter where you scatter them

  244. lovetox

    and yes the correct way is type=fixed

  245. lovetox

    you can see that work in prosodys MUC Config form

  246. lovetox

    and Gajim

  247. Zash

    Is anyone actually using multiple <instructions> anywhere?

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  250. lovetox

    https://share.hoerist.com/philipp/p0GPfFzBgUo7VSic/Screenshot_from_2020-12-06_20-14-33.png

  251. lovetox

    ^ Sam Whited

  252. Zash

    That looks familiar. i3? :)

  253. lovetox

    yes

  254. Zash

    ^5

  255. lovetox

    btw Zash, look at the Persistent option

  256. lovetox

    i think its not good to put a description into the label

  257. lovetox

    you have a long desc anyway, Gajim shows it in the tooltip

  258. Zash

    Mmmm

  259. Zash

    Lots of "for/in the room" that might be considered redundant

  260. lovetox

    and i should think about if tooltip is really good, its not easy to discover

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  263. lovetox

    yeah the word room is mentioned a lot

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  266. Zash

    The concept of "persistence", especially as a boolean, is a bit weird and I'd like to replace it ... one day

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  271. lovetox

    The form instruction is here is also a bit redundant

  272. lovetox

    submit this form, yeah no shit

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  275. Zash

    Hahaha

  276. Zash

    https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0004.html#protocol says <instructions> shouldn't contain newlines, but https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#example-158 has a whole pile of them

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  279. lovetox

    totally redundant again

  280. lovetox

    it lists the full default configuration

  281. lovetox

    in the form that shows you the default configuration

  282. lovetox

    makes sense

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  285. Zash

    Been that way since 2013, before that instructions was identical to title

  286. Zash

    🤷️

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