jdev - 2021-02-02

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  175. debacle Asking around... Has somebody experience with client certificates (0178)? If so, which server, which client? I need "something" to get started, but no drugs please, just a hint.
  176. debacle Asking around... Has somebody experience with client certificates (XEP-0178)? If so, which server, which client? I need "something" to get started, but no drugs please, just a hint.
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  178. Sam Whited I just recently started an implementation of this if you have specific questions. I haven't done the verification properly because I want to upstream that into the X509 library I'm using, but I think I've done most of the XMPP specific bits
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  182. Kev M-Link and Swift both do cert auth. M-Link doesn't help you much I guess, but Swift might.
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  188. debacle Sam Whited Kev So far I'm probably just too stupid to configure ejabberd properly to accept a cert login from Gajim. But I'll try with Swift - at least that would make it easier to find the culprit.
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  194. debacle Kev OK, it doesn't work with neither Gajim nor Swift, so the under-educated server admin (myself) is probably to blame.
  195. debacle I probably totally misconfigured ejabberd. Now I'll try to totally misconfigure prosody.
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  200. lovetox debacle, i once wanted to test Gajims impl and set up my server with certs and client certs
  201. lovetox shit is too complicated
  202. debacle lovetox Yes, I wouldn't ask my aunt to do it ;-)
  203. debacle So you did not succeed?
  204. lovetox i removed client cert support from Gaim, i hope that answers your question
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  211. debacle lovetox I hope it comes back one day.
  212. lovetox if you succeed in setting up a test server it might :D
  213. debacle lovetox I'm not sure yet ;-)
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  216. mathieui lovetox, prosody with mod_client_certs works, afaik
  217. mathieui (but that’s for XEP-0257)
  218. mathieui using client certs work in slixmpp afaik, I implemented it in poezio a long time ago
  219. moparisthebest but does anyone use it
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  222. moparisthebest do browsers still support client cert authentication? I only know that existed because startssl did it, anyone remember that?
  223. mathieui I don’t know, but it seems like a nice alternative to passwords, though it would be nice if you could specify an access model
  224. mathieui moparisthebest, they certainly do
  225. moparisthebest only service I've ever known to do it
  226. lovetox mathieui, setting up the server is only half the task
  227. lovetox you also need to generate valid certs
  228. lovetox for the client
  229. lovetox who the fuck knows how to do that :)
  230. mathieui lovetox, not really, afair XEP-0257 does not care about what’s in the cert if I remember correctly
  231. mathieui lovetox, not really, afair XEP-0257 does not care about what’s in the cert
  232. mathieui Also, yes, X.509 authentication in browser is still very much used in corporate land
  233. mathieui (the product we sell at work has X.509 browser authentication, and we will never drop it because clients actually care)
  234. moparisthebest interesting, thanks!
  235. moparisthebest I thought all corporate world today did was fancy microsoft-azure-single-sign-on stuff
  236. mathieui (the product we sell at work has X.509 browser authentication, and we will never drop it because customers actually care)
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  238. Kev Yes, people definitely do still do cert-based authentication - but they're generally not people logging in to their personal chat account on the Internet :)
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  242. debacle I like to use client certificates for XMPP IoT stuff, the "other" IoT, the one *with* security
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