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  1083. lovetox is there a way for the server marking a pubsub node as read-only?
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  1440. flow lovetox, I am not aware of such a marking (but it's pubsub, so it may be somewhere). May I ask what an entity would do with that information, e.g. how it would influence an entities behavior?
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  1442. lovetox say you have a server connected to ldap
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  1444. lovetox the server provides vcards with information filled by ldap
  1445. lovetox now as a client you show that vcard, but you cant show the user that he is not able to edit that vcard
  1446. Zash Is there anything like that anywhere else?
  1447. Zash Mostly I think we return an error when you try
  1448. lovetox i mean it would probably trivial to hack something together that shows that to the client
  1449. lovetox just add a custom attribute to the vcard
  1450. lovetox that says LDAP, or Read-only
  1451. lovetox whatever
  1452. flow hmm I wonder if it would be sensible to have an is-this-pubsub-node-modifiable-by-me IQ query
  1453. flow not sure if a server could mark a node as such
  1454. flow which would be preferable, of course
  1455. flow hmm, but can't you query the node settings and see if you can modify it?
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  1463. lovetox flow there is no setting that would forbid me to modify my account pubsub node
  1464. lovetox as account, i have full publishing permissions on anything
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  1466. flow lovetox, I would imagine that a service would not allow you to modify a read-only pubsub node (e.g. like a synthesized vcard from ldap, as per your example)
  1467. flow so maybe a service could set the access model to whitelist, with the list being empty
  1468. Zash surely in such a deployment, not having write access would be fine
  1469. flow ahh wait, "access model" seems to be about notification access, not push access
  1470. lovetox flow, i never queried the whitelist
  1471. lovetox but i imagin it is always empty
  1472. lovetox yeah anyway
  1473. flow Zash, sure, the question was how a client becomes aware of this. without the client presenting a user a nice dialog where he can modify the node, only to be annoyed to learn that he is not allowed to modify it
  1474. Zash Some kind of "who am I to you" query would be nice.
  1475. Zash Hm, do current PEP implementations do https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#entity-affiliations ?
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  1478. lovetox how would that help Zash?
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  1480. Zash could tell you whether you're _not_ the owner of some node, or otherwise don't have an affiliation that gives publishing rights
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  1482. lovetox oh
  1483. lovetox then i would do this query
  1484. lovetox https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#owner-affiliations
  1485. lovetox and see that im for example only member
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  1487. lovetox hm but can a member retrive the affiliations ^
  1488. lovetox hm but can a member retrive the affiliations ^^
  1489. Zash Confusingly there are two <affiliations/> queries, a normal one and an #owner one.
  1490. lovetox no the one you pointed to gives all the affiliations a service offers
  1491. Zash The former lets you query a pubsub service for your own affiliations (for all nodes on the service)
  1492. lovetox ah
  1493. lovetox ok
  1494. lovetox i understand
  1495. lovetox ok i guess this solves the problem thanks
  1496. Zash probably as close as we get without inventing some new feature, yeah
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