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is there a way for the server marking a pubsub node as read-only?
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18:02:31 flow
lovetox, I am not aware of such a marking (but it's pubsub, so it may be somewhere). May I ask what an entity would do with that information, e.g. how it would influence an entities behavior?
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say you have a server connected to ldap
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the server provides vcards with information filled by ldap
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now as a client you show that vcard, but you cant show the user that he is not able to edit that vcard
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Is there anything like that anywhere else?
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Mostly I think we return an error when you try
18:12:15 lovetox
i mean it would probably trivial to hack something together that shows that to the client
18:12:21 lovetox
just add a custom attribute to the vcard
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that says LDAP, or Read-only
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whatever
18:20:05 flow
hmm I wonder if it would be sensible to have an is-this-pubsub-node-modifiable-by-me IQ query
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not sure if a server could mark a node as such
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which would be preferable, of course
18:22:02 flow
hmm, but can't you query the node settings and see if you can modify it?
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flow there is no setting that would forbid me to modify my account pubsub node
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as account, i have full publishing permissions on anything
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lovetox, I would imagine that a service would not allow you to modify a read-only pubsub node (e.g. like a synthesized vcard from ldap, as per your example)
19:21:51 flow
so maybe a service could set the access model to whitelist, with the list being empty
19:22:38 Zash
surely in such a deployment, not having write access would be fine
19:23:00 flow
ahh wait, "access model" seems to be about notification access, not push access
19:23:00 lovetox
flow, i never queried the whitelist
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but i imagin it is always empty
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yeah anyway
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Zash, sure, the question was how a client becomes aware of this. without the client presenting a user a nice dialog where he can modify the node, only to be annoyed to learn that he is not allowed to modify it
19:27:12 Zash
Some kind of "who am I to you" query would be nice.
19:28:25 Zash
Hm, do current PEP implementations do https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#entity-affiliations ?
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how would that help Zash?
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could tell you whether you're _not_ the owner of some node, or otherwise don't have an affiliation that gives publishing rights
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19:41:18 lovetox
oh
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then i would do this query
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https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#owner-affiliations
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and see that im for example only member
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hm but can a member retrive the affiliations ^
19:42:18 lovetox
hm but can a member retrive the affiliations ^^
19:43:36 Zash
Confusingly there are two <affiliations/> queries, a normal one and an #owner one.
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no the one you pointed to gives all the affiliations a service offers
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The former lets you query a pubsub service for your own affiliations (for all nodes on the service)
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ah
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ok
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i understand
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ok i guess this solves the problem thanks
19:45:33 Zash
probably as close as we get without inventing some new feature, yeah
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