jdev - 2021-04-12

pep., writing code is kind of my hobby, so ..

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Is anyone aware of any XMPP software that would be upset by the XML declaration `<?xml?>` being left out?

I’m not *aware* of any, but that’s not proof of the negative.

Background: A tweak in write scheduling that causes the xml declaration to be sent out in its own packet which breaks some older versions of Gajim. I'm wondering if we could just not send it.

I thought I wasn't sending it, but apparently I added it at some point. I don't remember doing so because of some other client or server having a bug, but it does seem odd that I added it so I wonder…

git blame?

Reminder that including the reasoning for the change in the commit message is hugely appreciated by your future self.

Indeed; this is why I provide commit message writing guidance in all my "new contributor" documents or what not

I throw https://chris.beams.io/posts/git-commit/ at people

This is also one of the things I hate about GitHub and the various things that rip it off directly (GitLab, Gittea, etc.). There's no way in a code review to actually review the commit message (I mean "easily", obviously you can always leave a comment, but not inline or conveniently like the code)

jonas’: Quite.

is the 3 backticks formatting ``` only for code snippets usually?

or are there other uses for that?

``` _ _ __ _ _ _ __ _| |__ _ _ _ __ ___ | |_ / _(_) __ _| | ___| |_ \ \ /\ / / '_ \| | | | | '_ \ / _ \| __| | |_| |/ _` | |/ _ \ __| \ V V /| | | | |_| | | | | | (_) | |_ | _| | (_| | | __/ |_ \_/\_/ |_| |_|\__, | |_| |_|\___/ \__| |_| |_|\__, |_|\___|\__| |___/ |___/ ```

nice Zash

i wonder if i should stick the whole block into some box and write Code Snippet above, maybe with the language name

and i wonder if this is maybe then weird if people use it for something totally different

Just Snippet maybe?

```lua local function foo() return bar end ``` Showing that as "Lua Snippet" might be nice tho, especially with syntax highlighting

Oh, wishlist: If it's *huge*, stick some scrollbars or "click to expand" thing on it

lovetox: at least in 0393 they're just pre-formatted text (so monospace but otherwise unstructured). If the client wants to read the info string and if it looks like a language try to syntax highlight it though, it won't break anything.

+1 to what Zash said about scrollbars or click to expand, that bugs me a lot and I always wish clients would do it.

I'm also wondering if at some point (in size of the code snippet you share) you might wanna share it via file transfer / http upload, but still show it inline

yeah but huge is not a snippet

and xmpp client is not a code editor ..

Challenge accepted

:D

but yeah scrollbar seems to be a good idea

and maybe a button "open in editor"

and maybe copy to clipboard

maybe save as too, but you could do that from an editor...

moparisthebest, chat client built into editor? copypaste directly into conversation? hmm

pair programming something something

> yeah but huge is not a snippet > and xmpp client is not a code editor .. Well, actually… https://www.saros-project.org/

I surely hope they don't use 393 in there. (that is, they have a usable wire format)

heh, yah, that probably isn't a good use of 393

Constant message editing to a 393 document that's just a fenced code block!

I imagine a browser programmer said that one day

Then... Visual studio code