jdev - 2021-04-13


  1. mac has left
  2. gutuning has left
  3. gutuning has joined
  4. eta has left
  5. eta has joined
  6. junaid has left
  7. Ge0rG has left
  8. Ge0rG has joined
  9. junaid has joined
  10. alexbay218 has joined
  11. paul has left
  12. junaid has left
  13. junaid has joined
  14. Kiwi has left
  15. omighty has joined
  16. gutuning has left
  17. gutuning has joined
  18. gutuning has left
  19. gutuning has joined
  20. junaid has left
  21. junaid has joined
  22. kikuchiyo has left
  23. lovetox has left
  24. kikuchiyo has joined
  25. junaid has left
  26. junaid has joined
  27. junaid has left
  28. junaid has joined
  29. Yagizа has joined
  30. gutuning has left
  31. gutuning has joined
  32. kikuchiyo has left
  33. kikuchiyo has joined
  34. paul has joined
  35. lovetox has joined
  36. moparisthebest has left
  37. moparisthebest has joined
  38. moparisthebest has left
  39. moparisthebest has joined
  40. raghavgururajan has left
  41. raghavgururajan has joined
  42. gutuning has left
  43. lovetox_ has left
  44. gutuning has joined
  45. alexbay218 has left
  46. lovetox_ has joined
  47. gutuning has left
  48. floretta has left
  49. moparisthebest has left
  50. moparisthebest has joined
  51. gutuning has joined
  52. marmistrz has joined
  53. sth has joined
  54. gutuning has left
  55. sth o/ hi there. I've seen from this blog post (https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2020/03/10/omemo-specification-sprint/) and the OMEMO XEP's history that there was a conscious effort to not refer directly to signal/libsignal but rather to the underlying cryptographic system. Do you know any alternative implementation library of lib signal that could be used for OMEMO? (I'm for now specifically interested in a JS version). Thanks a lot
  56. lovetox_ has left
  57. lovetox_ has joined
  58. omighty has left
  59. junaid has left
  60. junaid has joined
  61. lovetox_ has left
  62. lovetox_ has joined
  63. lovetox_ has left
  64. lovetox_ has joined
  65. lovetox_ has left
  66. moparisthebest has left
  67. lovetox_ has joined
  68. lovetox_ has left
  69. lovetox_ has joined
  70. omighty has joined
  71. gutuning has joined
  72. sth has left
  73. sth has joined
  74. lovetox_ has left
  75. omighty has left
  76. debacle has joined
  77. omighty has joined
  78. gutuning has left
  79. flow sth, I'd check out what converse.js jsxc do (IIRC both support OMEMO)
  80. ralphm has joined
  81. oibalos has joined
  82. floretta has joined
  83. marmistrz has left
  84. marmistrz has joined
  85. goffi has joined
  86. gutuning has joined
  87. Guus has joined
  88. lovetox_ has joined
  89. gutuning has left
  90. lovetox_ has left
  91. lovetox_ has joined
  92. lovetox_ has left
  93. lovetox_ has joined
  94. lovetox_ has left
  95. lovetox_ has joined
  96. lovetox_ has left
  97. lovetox_ has joined
  98. paul has left
  99. paul has joined
  100. paul has left
  101. paul has joined
  102. lovetox_ has left
  103. lovetox_ has joined
  104. sth has left
  105. gutuning has joined
  106. kikuchiyo has left
  107. sth has joined
  108. gutuning has left
  109. sth has left
  110. lovetox_ has left
  111. lovetox_ has joined
  112. lovetox_ has left
  113. eta has left
  114. eta has joined
  115. kikuchiyo has joined
  116. Kiwi has joined
  117. gutuning has joined
  118. Wojtek has joined
  119. junaid has left
  120. junaid has joined
  121. edhelas has left
  122. edhelas has joined
  123. gutuning has left
  124. gutuning has joined
  125. junaid has left
  126. junaid has joined
  127. gutuning has left
  128. alacer has left
  129. junaid has left
  130. floretta has left
  131. junaid has joined
  132. alacer has joined
  133. sth has joined
  134. esil has left
  135. kikuchiyo has left
  136. kikuchiyo has joined
  137. oibalos has left
  138. junaid has left
  139. junaid has joined
  140. oibalos has joined
  141. sth flow from what I saw, they both rely on the libsignal js library
  142. marmistrz has left
  143. flow ahh, very likely, yes
  144. edhelas And movim will as well
  145. sth I'm surprised given the popularity of the signal protocol to be unable to find any alternative implementation
  146. Ge0rG sth: maybe it's because moxie explicitly forbids alternative implementations to connect to *the* signal servers or to even advertise as signal
  147. gutuning has joined
  148. lovetox sth, to my knowledge only xmpp really uses signal
  149. lovetox xmpp community is not very big :)
  150. Zash in a FOSS setting, maybe
  151. edhelas Let's fork the lib and call it libmosignal
  152. sth Hm, yeah but implementation of the double ratchet and X3DH should interest many
  153. gutuning has left
  154. larma sth, Syndace has an independent python implementation, not aware of independent js implementations
  155. asterix has left
  156. Syndace I believe com8 might be working on an independent implementation in a language that might be cross-compilable to js
  157. larma everything can be compiled to wasm and all common js runtimes support wasm, so you could just run python wherever you can run js 😀
  158. Syndace There's actually a good chance that my Python library will run on Brython (https://brython.info/) in a few months
  159. sth Ok, interesting, thanks!
  160. sth And also, I'm now sure that I didn't miss an alternative implementation. It looks like the OMEMO XEP is looking for some (in JS and other languages)
  161. floretta has joined
  162. Guus has left
  163. Zacharias Pretorius has joined
  164. Zacharias Pretorius Good day
  165. kikuchiyo has left
  166. Zacharias Pretorius Hope you are well.. im looking for some advice on interfacing from my own database running on my phone to be able to send messages from my yax.im account to other yax.im accounts
  167. Zacharias Pretorius without using my Monal im client
  168. wurstsalat has left
  169. asterix has joined
  170. kikuchiyo has joined
  171. moparisthebest has joined
  172. marmistrz has joined
  173. junaid has left
  174. junaid has joined
  175. wurstsalat has joined
  176. junaid has left
  177. junaid has joined
  178. gutuning has joined
  179. moparisthebest has left
  180. moparisthebest has joined
  181. pasdesushi has joined
  182. belong has left
  183. belong has joined
  184. sth has left
  185. gutuning has left
  186. lovetox_ has joined
  187. lovetox_ has left
  188. lovetox_ has joined
  189. lovetox_ has left
  190. lovetox_ has joined
  191. lovetox_ has left
  192. lovetox_ has joined
  193. lovetox_ has left
  194. lovetox_ has joined
  195. lovetox_ has left
  196. lovetox_ has joined
  197. lovetox_ has left
  198. lovetox_ has joined
  199. lovetox_ has left
  200. lovetox_ has joined
  201. lovetox_ has left
  202. kikuchiyo has left
  203. sonny has left
  204. sonny has joined
  205. kikuchiyo has joined
  206. gutuning has joined
  207. Guus has joined
  208. pasdesushi has left
  209. pasdesushi has joined
  210. pasdesushi has left
  211. pasdesushi has joined
  212. asterix has left
  213. Guus has left
  214. appu has joined
  215. gutuning has left
  216. appu hi
  217. appu has left
  218. Zacharias Pretorius has left
  219. asterix has joined
  220. asterix has left
  221. asterix has joined
  222. gutuning has joined
  223. belong has left
  224. belong has joined
  225. asterix has left
  226. asterix has joined
  227. pasdesushi has left
  228. gutuning has left
  229. Freddy has left
  230. Wojtek has left
  231. pasdesushi has joined
  232. gutuning has joined
  233. omighty has left
  234. pasdesushi has left
  235. pasdesushi has joined
  236. selurvedu has left
  237. omighty has joined
  238. Freddy has joined
  239. pasdesushi has left
  240. pasdesushi has joined
  241. belong has left
  242. belong has joined
  243. pasdesushi has left
  244. pasdesushi has joined
  245. pasdesushi has left
  246. pasdesushi has joined
  247. pasdesushi has left
  248. pasdesushi has joined
  249. pasdesushi has left
  250. pasdesushi has joined
  251. pasdesushi has left
  252. pasdesushi has joined
  253. pasdesushi has left
  254. pasdesushi has joined
  255. pasdesushi has left
  256. pasdesushi has joined
  257. pasdesushi has left
  258. pasdesushi has joined
  259. pasdesushi has left
  260. pasdesushi has joined
  261. pasdesushi has left
  262. pasdesushi has joined
  263. pasdesushi has left
  264. pasdesushi has joined
  265. pasdesushi has left
  266. pasdesushi has joined
  267. gutuning has left
  268. lovetox Zacharias Pretorius, i don’t really understand what you are trying to do
  269. lovetox for sending messages you need a client, if you dont want to use monal you have to code your own
  270. pasdesushi has left
  271. pasdesushi has joined
  272. pasdesushi has left
  273. pasdesushi has joined
  274. pasdesushi has left
  275. pasdesushi has joined
  276. pasdesushi has left
  277. pasdesushi has joined
  278. pasdesushi has left
  279. pasdesushi has joined
  280. pasdesushi has left
  281. pasdesushi has joined
  282. pasdesushi has left
  283. pasdesushi has joined
  284. pasdesushi has left
  285. pasdesushi has joined
  286. pasdesushi has left
  287. pasdesushi has joined
  288. pasdesushi has left
  289. pasdesushi has joined
  290. gutuning has joined
  291. pasdesushi has left
  292. pasdesushi has joined
  293. pasdesushi has left
  294. pasdesushi has joined
  295. omighty has left
  296. pasdesushi has left
  297. pasdesushi has joined
  298. omighty has joined
  299. selurvedu has joined
  300. Zacharias Pretorius has joined
  301. ralphm has left
  302. asterix has left
  303. asterix has joined
  304. pasdesushi has left
  305. gutuning has left
  306. tiaod has left
  307. lovetox_ has joined
  308. gutuning has joined
  309. selurvedu has left
  310. selurvedu has joined
  311. lovetox_ has left
  312. lovetox_ has joined
  313. lovetox_ has left
  314. lovetox_ has joined
  315. lovetox_ has left
  316. lovetox_ has joined
  317. lovetox_ has left
  318. lovetox_ has joined
  319. lovetox_ has left
  320. lovetox_ has joined
  321. SouL has left
  322. asterix has left
  323. asterix has joined
  324. Zash has left
  325. Zash has joined
  326. Zash has left
  327. Zash has joined
  328. lovetox_ has left
  329. omighty has left
  330. lovetox_ has joined
  331. Zacharias Pretorius Is anyone chatting here? I was told I can get some support here?
  332. gutuning has left
  333. moparisthebest as long as it's about xmpp development stuff sure :)
  334. lovetox_ has left
  335. Zash You can, on a volunteer basis, iff there's someone around who wants to help.
  336. lovetox_ has joined
  337. lovetox_ has left
  338. lovetox_ has joined
  339. lovetox_ has left
  340. lovetox_ has joined
  341. lovetox_ has left
  342. lovetox_ has joined
  343. lovetox_ has left
  344. lovetox_ has joined
  345. Zacharias Pretorius Lovetox, thank you for replying.. I wish to integrate my xmpp account into my own custom database… so i would preferable not want to use Monal, yaxim or any other client in this case….
  346. Zacharias Pretorius I want to use it for internal notification in our business program… unless there is a way to have my database connect to a client such as monal im?
  347. moparisthebest Zacharias Pretorius, you can write your own code with any of the available XMPP libraries, or use something like sendxmpp in a script, whatever you want
  348. selurvedu Zacharias Pretorius, ah, so you want to use your yax.im account for sending notifications from your own app, right?
  349. Zash having your _database_ connect? that sounds very strange.
  350. moparisthebest https://github.com/moparisthebest/sendxmpp-rs is one example
  351. Zacharias Pretorius Zash, thank you.. I understand and I have such big appreciation for people developing opensource ! Im learning as im going and might probably get involved as im already designing our own business system in "Filemaker/Claris" … might even consider rebuilding in a opensource system if i can get hold of one that is userfriendly
  352. Zacharias Pretorius My current database in Filemaker can send email via "mail client / smtp"….. in my case i would really like to use xmpp but it does not look like xmpp and other protocols are supported at this moment
  353. Zacharias Pretorius @ moparisthebest: I have never done coding like this before. where do I start to figure this out?
  354. Zacharias Pretorius Just so you understand… i have to send from ios, not linux, windows or mac desktop
  355. gutuning has joined
  356. lovetox_ has left
  357. lovetox_ has joined
  358. Freddy has left
  359. lovetox_ has left
  360. lovetox_ has joined
  361. lovetox_ has left
  362. omighty has joined
  363. Freddy has joined
  364. omighty has left
  365. Kiwi has left
  366. omighty has joined
  367. lovetox has left
  368. goffi has left
  369. pulkomandy has left
  370. sonny has left
  371. Yagizа has left
  372. oibalos has left
  373. omighty has left
  374. lovetox has joined
  375. lovetox_ has joined
  376. lovetox_ has left
  377. lovetox_ has joined
  378. lovetox_ has left
  379. lovetox_ has joined
  380. lovetox_ has left
  381. lovetox_ has joined
  382. lovetox_ has left
  383. lovetox_ has joined
  384. lovetox_ has left
  385. lovetox_ has joined
  386. lovetox_ has left
  387. lovetox_ has joined
  388. gutuning has left
  389. gutuning has joined
  390. lovetox_ has left
  391. lovetox_ has joined
  392. lovetox_ has left
  393. lovetox_ has joined
  394. lovetox_ has left
  395. lovetox_ has joined
  396. lovetox_ has left
  397. lovetox_ has joined
  398. lovetox_ has left
  399. lovetox_ has joined
  400. lovetox_ has left
  401. omighty has joined
  402. lovetox_ has joined
  403. lovetox_ has left
  404. lovetox_ has joined
  405. lovetox_ has left
  406. lovetox_ has joined
  407. lovetox_ has left
  408. pasdesushi has joined
  409. Syndace has left
  410. Syndace has joined
  411. Kiwi has joined
  412. lovetox_ has joined
  413. lovetox_ has left
  414. lovetox_ has joined
  415. lovetox_ has left
  416. lovetox_ has joined
  417. lovetox_ has left
  418. asterix has left
  419. asterix has joined
  420. lovetox_ has joined
  421. marmistrz has left
  422. lovetox_ has left
  423. lovetox_ has joined
  424. lovetox_ has left
  425. Zacharias Pretorius has left
  426. lovetox_ has joined
  427. lovetox_ has left
  428. lovetox_ has joined
  429. lovetox_ has left
  430. lovetox_ has joined
  431. Alex has left
  432. lovetox_ has left
  433. lovetox_ has joined
  434. lovetox_ has left
  435. lovetox_ has joined
  436. lovetox_ has left
  437. selurvedu has left
  438. pasdesushi has left
  439. selurvedu has joined
  440. lovetox_ has joined
  441. lovetox_ has left
  442. Alex has joined
  443. pulkomandy has joined
  444. Zash has left
  445. sonny has joined
  446. Zash has joined
  447. asterix has left
  448. asterix has joined
  449. pasdesushi has joined
  450. lovetox has left
  451. pasdesushi has left
  452. pasdesushi has joined
  453. pasdesushi has left
  454. pasdesushi has joined
  455. pasdesushi has left
  456. lovetox has joined
  457. gutuning has left
  458. gutuning has joined
  459. tiaod has joined
  460. tiaod has left
  461. tiaod has joined
  462. tiaod has left
  463. marmistrz has joined
  464. tiaod has joined
  465. kikuchiyo has left
  466. gutuning has left
  467. gutuning has joined