jdev - 2021-04-20


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  71. defanor Sometimes I wonder whether basic symmetric encryption with manually managed keys may be a good fit for E2EE in instant messaging. The asymmetric ones aren't used to establish trust chains anyway, so the disadvantage I see is just the need for confidentiality in addition to integrity/authentication for key exchange/verification, but I think in practice much of the time one has either neither or both. While among the advantages are
  72. defanor simplicity, plausible deniability, and elimination of the more paranoid concerns. And it can be used both by itself or as a part of more complex protocols with automated session key establishment, relying on asymmetric cryptography. Were there any attempts to use it that way, and/or am I missing other notable disadvantages?
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  74. Ge0rG defanor: https://op-co.de/tmp/SEX.html 😁
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  76. defanor Ge0rG, that appears to rely on asymmetric/public-key cryptography, but thanks for the link, I haven't seen it before.
  77. Ge0rG ah right, looking for symmetric crypto. Not sure if it is a good idea over lean asymmetric with static per-user keys
  78. Ge0rG because you'd need N² keys instead of N keys
  79. defanor That's for the whole system, but each user individually would need the same number of keys (matching the number of contacts).
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  160. Ge0rG When you use your app's Android package name as a XEP namespace, and people end up forking and search&replacing everything. 11142 eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist 877 eu.siacs.xmpp_messenger.axolotl.devicelist 170 com.KDJStudios.XMPPJabberClient.axolotl.devicelist 147 eu.siacs.storizima.axolotl.devicelist 106 com.yaari.storizim.axolotl.devicelist 103 mob.titecs.cackle.axolotl.devicelist 10 com.kwikchat.app.axolotl.devicelist 7 de.nxmedia.app.android.c0nnect.axolotl.devicelist 5 com.securedsoftware.vaultim.axolotl.devicelist 4 com.a3india.conversations.axolotl.devicelist 3 lu.pgd.conversations.axolotl.devicelist 3 chat.conab.gov.br.axolotl.devicelist 2 xyz.glidermessenger.glider.axolotl.devicelist 2 de.tengu.chat.axolotl.devicelist 1 com.onionsearchengine.onionmessenger.axolotl.devicelist
  161. Ge0rG will the fork developers please stand up? *please stand up!*
  162. Sam Damn it; and now that's going to be stuck in my head all damn day.
  163. pulkomandy Always rot13 your xml namespaces to avoid accidental search and replaces?
  164. Ge0rG why not base64 it?
  165. Ge0rG or just use UUIDs
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  168. jubalh I'm for base64 too
  169. edhelas 🙄
  170. Ge0rG base64(hmac(uuid, session_id))
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  186. Sam Office Hours starting in 10 minutes! https://socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv
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  283. edhelas do you guys know some projects that send the MDP current playing song to PEP User Tune ?
  284. lovetox DMP?
  285. lovetox MDP?
  286. edhelas *MPD
  287. lovetox ok still dont know what that means
  288. lovetox Gajim can send the current tune to pep
  289. lovetox if you have a player with MPRIS plugin
  290. edhelas https://www.musicpd.org/
  291. lovetox or support
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  294. lovetox em, ok its a application that runs on a server and plays music there
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  296. lovetox and i can stream it or how can i listen to the music?
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  299. edhelas yup :)
  300. edhelas so I was looking for a little daemon that can hook to it and publish the current tune to a configured JID
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  302. edhelas should not be that difficult to write, but maybe there was already an existing script somewhere
  303. lovetox can a website access dbus?
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  307. lovetox if your player has mpris support, and a website can access dbus, then you could get the current playing song via that
  308. lovetox i mean a client like movim could get it then
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  310. lovetox but i guess websites can’t access dbus
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  315. moparisthebest New from Google: WebDBUS
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  319. edhelas time to do DBUS over XMPP
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