jdev - 2021-05-17


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  17. Sam Made a little example of using ad-hoc commands just as a demo and it's surprisingly useful in its own right. Maybe I should finally make that "do xmpp things" CLI tool I've been saying I would start forever.
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  35. qrpnxz do it
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  147. eta I did not realise the King's Cross Tunnel existed
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  149. eta and I was literally in that area 2 days ago :P
  150. eta someone send me some XMPP stickers and I'll go and photograph that tunnel holding one of them in the foreground
  151. edhelas better stick all the stickers in the tunnel /o/
  152. eta hey, I mean there are loads of "covid is a hoax!" stickers out on the London Underground
  153. eta maybe I should just sticker over them all with XMPP and Dino stickers
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  170. flow do it! :)
  171. wurstsalat ..and I thought you were talking about XEP-0449
  172. eta doesn't actually have any XMPP stickers though; should grab some whenever the next congress happens
  173. edhelas still have "XMPP stickers with the SVG glitch"
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  175. edhelas very rare, i'll sell them on eBay in a few years and make a lot of money
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  303. defanor Good idea: placing XMPP stickers in that tunnel would equally confuse tunnel users, so everything would be balanced.
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  404. qrpnxz With regards to server-server connections, is it expected that I establish a connection from A to B, then wait for an associated connection from B to A (ew what?), then, if I am following XEP-0288, advertize bidi, then wait for <bidi/>, then what? Which connection do I drop? Can I just assume bidirectionality to start like a sane person?
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  414. Zash If B advertises bidi then you bidi and you're done.
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  419. qrpnxz that doesn't answer if it's expected these days for me to wait for a connection from B, nor does it answer on which connection the bidi is happening.
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  426. Zash There need only be one connection if bidi is used.
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  433. qrpnxz if B does not use bidi, it will try to connect to me, if i don't expect that it will be bad. Maybe B does use bidi, but it can't reasonably expect me to do so also, so it tries to dial me anyway. I can't know for sure B uses bidi until it dials me and it tells me that it does unless that is just the standard now that it's always bidi that would be the easiest.
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  442. qrpnxz If i can just assume bidi great, but if not and we negotiate the feature, then which conn do we use?
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  444. Zash Dialback? We don't do that, we do mutual authentication with certificates and SASL EXTERNAL
  445. qrpnxz i didn't mean dialback, just to start a connection with me
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  460. Zash I suspect I'm too sleepy to understand what the question is. Maybe tomorrow, or if someone else's awake.
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  518. qrpnxz I should prolly ask the standards people in the other muc.
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