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Sam
Made a little example of using ad-hoc commands just as a demo and it's surprisingly useful in its own right. Maybe I should finally make that "do xmpp things" CLI tool I've been saying I would start forever.
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qrpnxz
do it
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eta
I did not realise the King's Cross Tunnel existed
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eta
and I was literally in that area 2 days ago :P
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eta
someone send me some XMPP stickers and I'll go and photograph that tunnel holding one of them in the foreground
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edhelas
better stick all the stickers in the tunnel /o/
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eta
hey, I mean there are loads of "covid is a hoax!" stickers out on the London Underground
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eta
maybe I should just sticker over them all with XMPP and Dino stickers
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flow
do it! :)
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wurstsalat
..and I thought you were talking about XEP-0449
- eta doesn't actually have any XMPP stickers though; should grab some whenever the next congress happens
- edhelas still have "XMPP stickers with the SVG glitch"
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edhelas
very rare, i'll sell them on eBay in a few years and make a lot of money
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defanor
Good idea: placing XMPP stickers in that tunnel would equally confuse tunnel users, so everything would be balanced.
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qrpnxz
With regards to server-server connections, is it expected that I establish a connection from A to B, then wait for an associated connection from B to A (ew what?), then, if I am following XEP-0288, advertize bidi, then wait for <bidi/>, then what? Which connection do I drop? Can I just assume bidirectionality to start like a sane person?
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Zash
If B advertises bidi then you bidi and you're done.
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qrpnxz
that doesn't answer if it's expected these days for me to wait for a connection from B, nor does it answer on which connection the bidi is happening.
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Zash
There need only be one connection if bidi is used.
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qrpnxz
if B does not use bidi, it will try to connect to me, if i don't expect that it will be bad. Maybe B does use bidi, but it can't reasonably expect me to do so also, so it tries to dial me anyway. I can't know for sure B uses bidi until it dials me and it tells me that it does unless that is just the standard now that it's always bidi that would be the easiest.
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qrpnxz
If i can just assume bidi great, but if not and we negotiate the feature, then which conn do we use?
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Zash
Dialback? We don't do that, we do mutual authentication with certificates and SASL EXTERNAL
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qrpnxz
i didn't mean dialback, just to start a connection with me
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Zash
I suspect I'm too sleepy to understand what the question is. Maybe tomorrow, or if someone else's awake.
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qrpnxz
I should prolly ask the standards people in the other muc.