jdev - 2021-06-01

  1. Sam

    The XMPP Office Hours are in 10 minutes! Join us for a demo of ad-hoc commands and forms using Mellium https://socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv

  2. Sam

    Excuse me, 15 minutes.

  3. Zash

    !

  4. Sam

    Starting now!

  5. Zash

    Sam: For your horror, let me tell you that the order of elements in the <adhoc:commands> element is determined by the iteration order of a hash table. Enjoy.

  6. Zash

    (in prosody)

  7. Sam

    hah, that is horrifying (though I blame the spec)

  8. Zash

    Probably safest to not rely on order of elements unless something says that order matters.

  9. şişio

    Some people says:XMPP encryption old because bad than Matrix encrypten. What's the truth of this?

  10. şişio

    Yes, but matrix has stronger encryption and is easier to use. XMPP is older tech

  11. eta

    şişio: it's the same

  12. eta

    they both use the Signal Protocol (OMEMO for XMPP, olm for Matrix)

  13. Zash

    which is also the same as WhatsApp and Facebook and maybe others. And Signal itself of course.

  14. şişio

    I'm learning software just to read the codes.

  15. şişio

    I have a brain too, it's bad to need others. Thanks!

  16. Zash

    Humans are social creatures, relying on others is natural and how we got this far to the point where we are communicating using specially prepared sand.

  17. selurvedu

    şişio, maybe that was about OTR encryption which gives a much worse user experience, or about outdated clients which don't support end-to-end encryption at all

  18. şişio

    > selurvedu wrote: > şişio, maybe that was about OTR encryption which gives a much worse user experience, or about outdated clients which don't support end-to-end encryption at all Yes, maybe.