jdev - 2021-10-20


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  183. Zash In pubsub, is there a difference between pubsub#max_items=0 and pubsub#persist_items=false ?
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  186. edhelas its been 30sec, I'm still thinking, and I don't have an answer yet :D
  187. flow Zash, probably not. but I think as soon as max_items > 0, then persist_items is of interest
  188. Zash what does max_items do if persist = false?
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  192. flow under that assumption that persistence here means "store items in persitent storage", then max_items limits the number of items in volatile memory?
  193. Zash I'm under the impression that 'max_items' limit the number of items in _persistent_ storage
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  197. flow the field labes gives the impression, yes
  198. flow even though, persist could mean here either on persistent storage or in volatile memory
  199. Zash isn't that an implementation detail in any case?
  200. Zash or internal something something
  201. flow define "that"?
  202. Zash "persistent storage" vs "volatile"
  203. Zash Why does that matter to a network protocol?
  204. flow In any case, I believe the description of pubsub#max_items "Max # of items to persist.…" to be ambiguous
  205. flow well it sure does matter to the user if his items are permanently stored or in volatile memory
  206. flow Zash, a pubsub implementation may not implement a persitent storage backend for its items (like prosody at the beginning). In that case, I'd say that the implementation can not allow persist_items=true
  207. flow However, an pubsub implementation may implement persitent storage, but also allows a node to be configured so that its items are only stored in volatile memory (perist_items=false)
  208. Zash Last time my understanding changed to be that persist_items=false means that events are broadcast and then *poof* gone
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  210. flow Maybe, as I said, I beleive the specification to be ambiguous here. And a quick search of persist_items in xep60 did not clarify this for me
  211. jonas’ just xep0060 things
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  213. Zash indeed
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  216. jonas’ though the true xep0060 experience would've been if a `persist_nonvolatile` setting popped up which nobody had seen before which switches between the three behaviours
  217. jonas’ (of course, persist_items=false and persist_nonvolatile=true would be undefined)
  218. Zash I've considered a way to configure which internal API to use
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