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Zash
14:42:32
In pubsub, is there a difference between pubsub#max_items=0 and pubsub#persist_items=false ?
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edhelas
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its been 30sec, I'm still thinking, and I don't have an answer yet :D
flow
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Zash, probably not. but I think as soon as max_items > 0, then persist_items is of interest
Zash
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what does max_items do if persist = false?
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flow
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under that assumption that persistence here means "store items in persitent storage", then max_items limits the number of items in volatile memory?
Zash
15:01:51
I'm under the impression that 'max_items' limit the number of items in _persistent_ storage
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flow
15:09:16
the field labes gives the impression, yes
flow
15:09:47
even though, persist could mean here either on persistent storage or in volatile memory
Zash
15:10:05
isn't that an implementation detail in any case?
Zash
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or internal something something
flow
15:11:17
define "that"?
Zash
15:11:33
"persistent storage" vs "volatile"
Zash
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Why does that matter to a network protocol?
flow
15:12:02
In any case, I believe the description of pubsub#max_items "Max # of items to persist.…" to be ambiguous
flow
15:12:27
well it sure does matter to the user if his items are permanently stored or in volatile memory
flow
15:13:24
Zash, a pubsub implementation may not implement a persitent storage backend for its items (like prosody at the beginning). In that case, I'd say that the implementation can not allow persist_items=true
flow
15:13:56
However, an pubsub implementation may implement persitent storage, but also allows a node to be configured so that its items are only stored in volatile memory (perist_items=false)
Zash
15:16:00
Last time my understanding changed to be that persist_items=false means that events are broadcast and then *poof* gone
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flow
15:17:32
Maybe, as I said, I beleive the specification to be ambiguous here. And a quick search of persist_items in xep60 did not clarify this for me
jonas’
15:18:42
just xep0060 things
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Zash
15:20:46
indeed
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jonas’
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though the true xep0060 experience would've been if a `persist_nonvolatile` setting popped up which nobody had seen before which switches between the three behaviours
jonas’
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(of course, persist_items=false and persist_nonvolatile=true would be undefined)
Zash
15:24:04
I've considered a way to configure which internal API to use
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