jdev - 2021-12-15


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  369. theTedd lovetox, I think styling in /me is fine; the thing to be aware of is 'emphasis' inside already emphasized text, which should be non-italic within italic - that should already happen, and so if /me is in italic, emphasis would appear as non-italic
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  399. edhelas https://journal.valeriansaliou.name/announcing-prose-decentralized-team-messaging/
  400. Link Mauve “Jappix, the first ever Web-based XMPP client” ^^'
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  402. Link Mauve As if MUCkl didn’t exist long before it.
  403. MattJ Snikket for team chat?
  404. edhelas check when was the first Movim commit
  405. Link Mauve JWChat was another much older web client.
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  426. Kev Even JWChat isn't the oldest, I think.
  427. Link Mauve These were the two web clients I had access to, back when I started using XMPP circa 2005.
  428. Kev I think Chesspark might predate jwchat, and I think other things predate that as 'normal' chat clients.
  429. Link Mauve At least, the two deployed over at JabberFR, a website I discovered at this time. :p
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  433. stpeter I still have my Chesspark Alpha Tester t-shirt. ;-)
  434. Kev Show-off ;p
  435. stpeter :-P
  436. stpeter IIRC jwchat emerged from Jack's work on Chesspark.
  437. Kev That sounds vaguely familiar.
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  451. lovetox what was the max stanza size again?
  452. lovetox 10 kb?
  453. Link Mauve kB*, but correct.
  454. Link Mauve It’s the minimum allowed maximum though, most servers and clients will handle a lot more.
  455. Link Mauve But annoyingly enough, this doesn’t get advertised.
  456. lovetox ok whats a lot more ballbark wise where are we
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  458. lovetox ok whats a lot more ballpark wise where are we
  459. lovetox 10 mB?
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  461. Link Mauve 256 KiB per stanza on c2s, 512 KiB per stanza on s2s, on both Prosody and Ejabberd.
  462. Zash AFAIK both Prosody and ejabberd default to 256k now
  463. Zash ... yea what Link Mauve said
  464. Link Mauve Dunno what other servers use as limits.
  465. Zash Writing a XEP about advertising that number to clients is on my TODO
  466. Zash Maybe Next Year™
  467. Link Mauve What a surprise, it’s on mine too!
  468. Link Mauve To clients as well as servers.
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  470. lovetox but does that really help?
  471. Zash Wanna collaborate/merge?
  472. Link Mauve Sure, but I don’t have anything to merge just yet.
  473. Zash I also have a path MTU s2s thingy implementation somewhere
  474. lovetox what does it help if i can upload 1 mb to my server, but the server cant route the stanza because the server on the other side does not allow it
  475. Zash Or, parts of it
  476. Link Mauve Still deep in graphics code atm.
  477. Link Mauve lovetox, your server then rightfully routes back an error stanza telling you the remote server rejected it.
  478. Zash lovetox, that XEP should probably recommend that s2s limits be higher than c2s limits, to ensure anything a client may send can be delivered
  479. lovetox ok but that info is good enough for the moment
  480. Zash If the limit is known, stanzas can be bounced earlier, before they cause the whole connection to get torn down
  481. lovetox so my websocket message limit of 131kb is acutally a problem
  482. lovetox because usual server can send bigger messages
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  484. Link Mauve I’ve once received a 1.5 MiB vCard-temp from someone. ^^'
  485. Link Mauve … on each connection, since that client didn’t cache it.
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  633. edhelas https://harmonyapp.io/
  634. edhelas Protobuf is the new JSON
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  672. lovetox i wonder how many chat apps humanity will build
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  683. TheCoffeMaker https://cyberdelia.com.ar:5443/upload/0f1c746271efd83f8c67ec4e2fdb1075cb88684a/KPXTUh3nHLpqhSAu6EQ4FfKndgIgih2Wtm8CVRUBTvWAix4v3NxQTqqsVBKA/uR5aF505Q1iEwqcypkhicw.jpg
  684. TheCoffeMaker lovetox: maybe that answers your question
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