jdev - 2022-01-10

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  11. xnamed I'm confused about the wiki recent changes where I see membership applications for 2022 https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&limit=50&days=7&enhanced=1&urlversion=2 but I don't see the applications list of 2022 here https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications Can I apply now or I have to wait?
  12. Zash https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q1_2022 ?
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  29. xnamed Thank you Zash
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  31. xnamed Should I create my application page and name it My_Name_Application_2022 manually or it there is something else I'm missing?
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  107. jonas’ xnamed, I use User:NAME/Application_YYYY, where NAME is my wiki user name and YYYY is the year number
  108. jonas’ so I don't pollute the global namespace with all that
  109. Ge0rG jonas’: given that you also apply for Council, some more namespacing might be appropriate ;)
  110. jonas’ Ge0rG, User:NAME/Council_YYYY for that :)
  111. jonas’ IITC
  112. jonas’ IIRC
  113. jonas’ I didn't check
  114. Ge0rG :D
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  119. edhelas https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29871358
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  158. xnamed Thank you jonas’
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  163. junaid i've put up a simple webhook->xmpp solution at https://slickmsg.com/ ... I'm unaware of there existing any other one open to the public. i still have to create the privacy-policy and terms-of-service, but i've tried to keep everything simple and easy to use. i plan on creating a blog section with some guides on how eager users can setup their own similar solutions. please share comments/suggestions/improvements with me ... junaid@yax.im (i know it's ugly but I don't have any plan on making it pretty any time soon)
  164. jonas’ possibly relevant: https://modules.prosody.im/mod_slack_webhooks.html
  165. junaid yip, there's quite a few way to implement similar. prosody alone has multiple plugins that could be used/abused to fulfil the requirement ... mod_post_msg , mod_rest, etc. majority of people just get accounts on established xmpp servers.. but are then left without an API/webhook system for automation/scripts. (API/webhook automation already established as core functionality for most other walled-garden platforms)
  166. MattJ junaid, this is excellent! It really needed to exist :)
  167. jonas’ mmmmm, webhook.jabber.network? :)
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  172. junaid MattJ 👍️ jonas’ that subdomain aint resolving for me, or is it a joke? in which case i prob need ☕️ refill
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  177. jonas’ junaid, it was a low-key offer that I could point that subdomain at your service if you wanted to rebase it to use that.
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  179. junaid thanks for the kind offer jonas’. i'll keep a note of it. for now, i think let's first validate the idea before making long-term decisions. user adoption and potential for abuse are my main concerns. usability is also a concern but that will only be improved as more people use it and provide feedback.
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  181. MattJ One suggestion I have is to reuse an existing API format (or better: multiple). That way you will have immediate support for lots of existing software/services.
  182. MattJ For example, Gotify would be relatively straightforward: https://gotify.net/api-docs#/message/createMessage
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  184. junaid good idea and added to the TODO list. any other compat-API requests?
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  236. nephele I've been trying siskin on iOS for some days now, it's not that useable... it keeps duplicating MUC messages countlessly :( is there some specific room to complain about iOS clients?
  237. jonas’ Siskin feedback specifically would probably best addressed in the tigase MUC
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  239. jonas’ nephele, https://search.jabber.network/search?q=tigase+support -> xmpp:tigase@muc.xmpp.org?join
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  241. nephele Oh neat, a room searcher... thanks :D
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  244. edhelas jabber.network is the new Google
  245. nephele searches for "game dev" and finds a single room with one participant
  246. edhelas 2 now :)
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  255. lovetox in a non anonymous room prosody returns all the connected resources of the user
  256. lovetox is this something i can expect from other servers aswell?
  257. jonas’ it's unspecified
  258. lovetox great
  259. jonas’ I know, right?
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  261. lovetox probably also if full jid or bare jid
  262. jonas’ exactly
  263. lovetox so i can get, one bare jid, one full jid, or multiple full jids
  264. lovetox wonder if i should downgrade to one bare jid at lib level
  265. lovetox or pass on whatever i get, and let the app deal with it
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  268. defanor I think it tends to be more annoying when a library (or any other information source) eats/strips the information you can use, rather than when it provides a bit more than needed.
  269. qy Applications too
  270. qy See also: most xmpp clients
  271. jonas’ disagree for applications
  272. jonas’ many users find too much information to be overwhelming
  273. lovetox as im in the position to write the lib AND the app, i find it in the app really anoying, if i cant depend on things. and always have to if/else everything
  274. lovetox especially if its something that is unspecified and only a few servers do, and may stop at any moment
  275. lovetox i rarley want to depend on such things as an App
  276. lovetox but as a lib, i parse everything into useful structs for the app, but i leave an escape hatch open as the app can always look at the stanza from which the struct was created
  277. qy Guess im just a diehard power user
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  279. qy Hidden stuff rubs me raw
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  281. jonas’ qy, you are indeed
  282. jonas’ (I am, too)
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  292. junglebook helo
  293. junglebook Hello
  294. jonas’ I was about to say, this isn't about SMTP ;)
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  297. xiantian hello
  298. qy Ehlo
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  305. Zash 501 Syntax: EHLO hostname
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