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xnamed
I'm confused about the wiki recent changes where I see membership applications for 2022 https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&limit=50&days=7&enhanced=1&urlversion=2 but I don't see the applications list of 2022 here https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications Can I apply now or I have to wait?
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Zash
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q1_2022 ?
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xnamed
Thank you Zash
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xnamed
Should I create my application page and name it My_Name_Application_2022 manually or it there is something else I'm missing?
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jonas’
xnamed, I use User:NAME/Application_YYYY, where NAME is my wiki user name and YYYY is the year number
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jonas’
so I don't pollute the global namespace with all that
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Ge0rG
jonas’: given that you also apply for Council, some more namespacing might be appropriate ;)
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jonas’
Ge0rG, User:NAME/Council_YYYY for that :)
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jonas’
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jonas’
IIRC ✏
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jonas’
I didn't check
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Ge0rG
:D
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edhelas
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29871358
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xnamed
Thank you jonas’
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junaid
i've put up a simple webhook->xmpp solution at https://slickmsg.com/ ... I'm unaware of there existing any other one open to the public. i still have to create the privacy-policy and terms-of-service, but i've tried to keep everything simple and easy to use. i plan on creating a blog section with some guides on how eager users can setup their own similar solutions. please share comments/suggestions/improvements with me ... junaid@yax.im (i know it's ugly but I don't have any plan on making it pretty any time soon)
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jonas’
possibly relevant: https://modules.prosody.im/mod_slack_webhooks.html
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junaid
yip, there's quite a few way to implement similar. prosody alone has multiple plugins that could be used/abused to fulfil the requirement ... mod_post_msg , mod_rest, etc. majority of people just get accounts on established xmpp servers.. but are then left without an API/webhook system for automation/scripts. (API/webhook automation already established as core functionality for most other walled-garden platforms)
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MattJ
junaid, this is excellent! It really needed to exist :)
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jonas’
mmmmm, webhook.jabber.network? :)
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junaid
MattJ 👍️ jonas’ that subdomain aint resolving for me, or is it a joke? in which case i prob need ☕️ refill
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jonas’
junaid, it was a low-key offer that I could point that subdomain at your service if you wanted to rebase it to use that.
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junaid
thanks for the kind offer jonas’. i'll keep a note of it. for now, i think let's first validate the idea before making long-term decisions. user adoption and potential for abuse are my main concerns. usability is also a concern but that will only be improved as more people use it and provide feedback.
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MattJ
One suggestion I have is to reuse an existing API format (or better: multiple). That way you will have immediate support for lots of existing software/services.
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MattJ
For example, Gotify would be relatively straightforward: https://gotify.net/api-docs#/message/createMessage
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junaid
good idea and added to the TODO list. any other compat-API requests?
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nephele
I've been trying siskin on iOS for some days now, it's not that useable... it keeps duplicating MUC messages countlessly :( is there some specific room to complain about iOS clients?
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jonas’
Siskin feedback specifically would probably best addressed in the tigase MUC
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jonas’
nephele, https://search.jabber.network/search?q=tigase+support -> xmpp:tigase@muc.xmpp.org?join
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nephele
Oh neat, a room searcher... thanks :D
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edhelas
jabber.network is the new Google
- nephele searches for "game dev" and finds a single room with one participant
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edhelas
2 now :)
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lovetox
in a non anonymous room prosody returns all the connected resources of the user
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lovetox
is this something i can expect from other servers aswell?
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jonas’
it's unspecified
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lovetox
great
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jonas’
I know, right?
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lovetox
probably also if full jid or bare jid
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jonas’
exactly
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lovetox
so i can get, one bare jid, one full jid, or multiple full jids
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lovetox
wonder if i should downgrade to one bare jid at lib level
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lovetox
or pass on whatever i get, and let the app deal with it
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defanor
I think it tends to be more annoying when a library (or any other information source) eats/strips the information you can use, rather than when it provides a bit more than needed.
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qy
Applications too
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qy
See also: most xmpp clients
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jonas’
disagree for applications
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jonas’
many users find too much information to be overwhelming
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lovetox
as im in the position to write the lib AND the app, i find it in the app really anoying, if i cant depend on things. and always have to if/else everything
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lovetox
especially if its something that is unspecified and only a few servers do, and may stop at any moment
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lovetox
i rarley want to depend on such things as an App
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lovetox
but as a lib, i parse everything into useful structs for the app, but i leave an escape hatch open as the app can always look at the stanza from which the struct was created
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qy
Guess im just a diehard power user
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qy
Hidden stuff rubs me raw
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jonas’
qy, you are indeed
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jonas’
(I am, too)
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junglebook
helo
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junglebook
Hello
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jonas’
I was about to say, this isn't about SMTP ;)
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xiantian
hello
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qy
Ehlo
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Zash
501 Syntax: EHLO hostname
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nephele
heol ohtsanem