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10:14:23 Holger
I've been working on server code for quite a few years now but never came up with a nice way to test things manually on the XMPP level. I keep typing stuff into an XML console and looking at results. I guess others have less tedious solutions? <https://code.matthewwild.co.uk/clix/> maybe?
10:14:53 Zash
I use clix a lot for testing.
10:15:05 Zash
+ rlwrap for repeatability 😉
10:15:33 Zash
https://matthewwild.co.uk/projects/scansion/ is pretty good for making proper repeatable test cases
10:15:46 Holger
So I can easily build more or less arbitrary stanzas using clix?
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10:16:20 Zash
`clix raw` is more or less an xml console, so yeah
10:17:10 Holger
(We're fine with proper tests, thanks. Just my manual testing seems like it should work in a less meh way.)
10:17:11 Zash
it also lets you use prosodys stanza building api
10:17:36 Holger
Ah yes that sounds nicer than XML.
10:17:52 Zash
With some shortcuts like `m.chat"me@jabber.org":body"Hello"`
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10:18:14 Zash
Not much in the way of documentation I'm afraid, but peek at https://code.matthewwild.co.uk/clix/file/tip/clix/raw.lua#l54
10:18:37 Holger
Pretty much what I was looking for, thanks! I'll see whether I can get it to build then 🙂
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10:20:16 flow
Holger, FWIW, Smack has a REPL
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but I thin Clix is also a good solution
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10:25:38 Holger
flow, do you use it in place of an XML console for testing things manually?
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Holger, I use it to test things manually, but I never used it to send "raw" XML. It should be possible to do so, but the API (which in the case of an REPL becomes the CLI) could be improved
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Holger: Not sure quite what you're asking, but we have an entire testing framework that can run up multiple servers and clients in a single process against an in-process virtual network that we can control as we wish and test interactions.
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Kev, like scansion?
11:10:17 Holger
Kev, this sounds more like it's used for automated tests though? We do have something similar. What I need is just something for playing around with things _manually_.
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Zash: I don't know scansion, so can't comment.
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Holger: Ah. We tend to use Sluift for such stuff (Lua XMPP scripting stuff based on Swiften), depending what we're trying to do.
11:13:47 Holger
Ah, Sluift! I hadn't thought of that.
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I don't have any reason to suspect it to be better than clix, though.
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