jdev - 2022-01-23


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  168. xnamed

    > xnamed, I'll leave comments later today/tomorrow jonas’: it's been 9 days and I'm still waiting, did you forget?

  169. jonas’

    things came up

  170. jonas’

    but thanks for the reminder

  171. jonas’

    xnamed, stating the obvious, you're aware that XEPs are primarily written in XML, not markdown?

  172. xnamed

    jonas’: no problem, if you need more time I can remind you again

  173. jonas’

    looking at it now

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  175. xnamed

    Yes, I thought you will help with the XML part

  176. jonas’

    right, you can mess with the md2xep tool which is somewhere in the util/tools directory

  177. jonas’

    it is a bit opinionated about the exact markdown format, so I suggest that you use xep2md on an existing first to see what format it expects

  178. Zash

    `pandoc -t 2xep.lua` even

  179. Zash

    `pandoc yourxep.md -t tools/2xep.lua` even

  180. jonas’

    other than that, please take a look at the xep-template.xml and the sections it has by default -- the introduction and motivation section are missing from your document, those are required to understand what you're doing.

  181. jonas’

    in addition, this document definitely requires security considerations

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  183. xnamed

    I haven't written the whole document yet, I will try add the rest very soon

  184. jonas’

    thanks

  185. jonas’

    it's typically a good idea to start with the motivation section

  186. jonas’

    it helps people understand what your goal is

  187. xnamed

    I will do my best to make it clear. Thank you too jonas’

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  392. lovetox

    i wonder why does every messegner say "User x read this message"

  393. lovetox

    when in reality everybody knows the device can never know if a human read a message, except the human explicitly tells the device via a button

  394. lovetox

    the chat marker xep did somehow account for that and named the element correctly "<displayed>" and not "<read>"

  395. lovetox

    as in the client can be sure he displayed the message on the screen

  396. lovetox

    but not if the user really read it

  397. lovetox

    i wonder why we dont communicate this fact to the contact, "Message was displayed", instead of "Message was read"

  398. lovetox

    its subtle but it prevents users from complaining, that the client marked a message as read when they maybe had no time to read it really, but only opend a chat for example

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  413. defanor

    I guess that (the reasoning behind it may be that) some of the users may be confused by "displayed", while "read" is already commonly used in mail clients and feed readers to mean "was displayed at some point".

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  432. xnamed

    We show "displayed" for <displayed> element, but "read" for <acknowledged> element

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