jdev - 2022-01-23


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  168. xnamed > xnamed, I'll leave comments later today/tomorrow jonas’: it's been 9 days and I'm still waiting, did you forget?
  169. jonas’ things came up
  170. jonas’ but thanks for the reminder
  171. jonas’ xnamed, stating the obvious, you're aware that XEPs are primarily written in XML, not markdown?
  172. xnamed jonas’: no problem, if you need more time I can remind you again
  173. jonas’ looking at it now
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  175. xnamed Yes, I thought you will help with the XML part
  176. jonas’ right, you can mess with the md2xep tool which is somewhere in the util/tools directory
  177. jonas’ it is a bit opinionated about the exact markdown format, so I suggest that you use xep2md on an existing first to see what format it expects
  178. Zash `pandoc -t 2xep.lua` even
  179. Zash `pandoc yourxep.md -t tools/2xep.lua` even
  180. jonas’ other than that, please take a look at the xep-template.xml and the sections it has by default -- the introduction and motivation section are missing from your document, those are required to understand what you're doing.
  181. jonas’ in addition, this document definitely requires security considerations
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  183. xnamed I haven't written the whole document yet, I will try add the rest very soon
  184. jonas’ thanks
  185. jonas’ it's typically a good idea to start with the motivation section
  186. jonas’ it helps people understand what your goal is
  187. xnamed I will do my best to make it clear. Thank you too jonas’
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  392. lovetox i wonder why does every messegner say "User x read this message"
  393. lovetox when in reality everybody knows the device can never know if a human read a message, except the human explicitly tells the device via a button
  394. lovetox the chat marker xep did somehow account for that and named the element correctly "<displayed>" and not "<read>"
  395. lovetox as in the client can be sure he displayed the message on the screen
  396. lovetox but not if the user really read it
  397. lovetox i wonder why we dont communicate this fact to the contact, "Message was displayed", instead of "Message was read"
  398. lovetox its subtle but it prevents users from complaining, that the client marked a message as read when they maybe had no time to read it really, but only opend a chat for example
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  413. defanor I guess that (the reasoning behind it may be that) some of the users may be confused by "displayed", while "read" is already commonly used in mail clients and feed readers to mean "was displayed at some point".
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  432. xnamed We show "displayed" for <displayed> element, but "read" for <acknowledged> element
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