jdev - 2022-01-29


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  234. lovetox would it be a good idea to display messages from the server domain somehow different
  235. lovetox at the moment in gajim its a simple chat
  236. lovetox just with yourdomain.com
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  238. lovetox but most of the time server send maintainence message over that jid
  239. lovetox so one could not treat this as a chat and display it on some kind of status page
  240. lovetox but then probably someone wrote some server module where users need to answer to such messages to do something?
  241. lovetox and they will complain that they cant chat with that domain jid?
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  244. Zash A server that doesn't support such messages would send you an error reply if you try.
  245. Zash I'm not opposed to inventing some feature flag to indicate that the bare host JID supports messaging somehow
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  247. Zash Apart from that, showing messages from the server as some sort of special status messages would be nice.
  248. Zash I especially like the way Poezio shows headline messages
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  250. Zash Also, Converse.js has some message view without an input field for things like that.
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  252. Zash But then things like the pubsub tui at xmpp:pubsub.prosody.im gets tricky to use, if there's no way to get the input filed back
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  262. lovetox Zash are you saying me server dont support sending a message to the host jid?
  263. lovetox is there something in the standard that forbids that?
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  265. lovetox im aware that this is not common, but as i said, someone can just invent a module for a server and receive commands over chat messages to the host jid
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  267. lovetox and then they bug me why they cant write messages to that jid
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  270. Zash Not forbidden. But a server without such a module will likely just return an error if you do send something.
  271. lovetox movim.eu returns "No available resource found"
  272. lovetox what ever that means
  273. lovetox ok so what im really asking is, is anyone aware here on usecases where humans have to "chat" with the host jid like its some user
  274. Zash > xmpp:pubsub.prosody.im
  275. Zash maybe the cheogram bot?
  276. jonas’ the host jid === JID without localpart?
  277. lovetox yes, yourdomain.com
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  279. jonas’ restricting that seems odd
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  284. lovetox how is it odd, i just told the use case which is not odd in my opinion
  285. lovetox hm
  286. lovetox or maybe im going wrong at this, can i depend on that server send info messages as type = headline?
  287. lovetox so simpley not opening chats for that
  288. jonas’ could make sense
  289. lovetox nor displaying it when a user opens a chat with the host jid
  290. jonas’ treat 'from has no localpart && type == "headline"' as status message
  291. Zash "status message" is a bit ambiguous tho
  292. Zash but yeah, some sort of system message
  293. Zash especially if it comes from your own domain
  294. Zash observes that Snikket uses type=normal
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  296. jonas’ treat 'from has no localpart && (type == "headline" || type == "normal")' as status message
  297. jonas’ O:-)
  298. Zash ninja
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  300. Zash Opening a normal chat for a type=="chat" seems like a sensible thing tho
  301. Zash and having some way to open such a chat, but I'd understand if it's hidden away in some menu
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  481. pep. https://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Chat/Instant-Messaging/cwtch.shtml
  482. pep. Somebody called their app Cwtch. Come and tell us to our face XMPP is hard to pronounce / remember
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  484. defanor Apparently it's pronounced /kʊtʃ/ -- still easier than /ɛks ɛm piː piː/.
  485. Link Mauve pep., I once named mine PSĜS, I’m not one to talk. o:)
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  487. pulkomandy I considered using japanese spelling for Renga, but decided to go for latin alphabet (mostly. Except the app icon)
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