jdev - 2022-01-29

would it be a good idea to display messages from the server domain somehow different

at the moment in gajim its a simple chat

just with yourdomain.com

but most of the time server send maintainence message over that jid

so one could not treat this as a chat and display it on some kind of status page

but then probably someone wrote some server module where users need to answer to such messages to do something?

and they will complain that they cant chat with that domain jid?

A server that doesn't support such messages would send you an error reply if you try.

I'm not opposed to inventing some feature flag to indicate that the bare host JID supports messaging somehow

Apart from that, showing messages from the server as some sort of special status messages would be nice.

I especially like the way Poezio shows headline messages

Also, Converse.js has some message view without an input field for things like that.

But then things like the pubsub tui at xmpp:pubsub.prosody.im gets tricky to use, if there's no way to get the input filed back

Zash are you saying me server dont support sending a message to the host jid?

is there something in the standard that forbids that?

im aware that this is not common, but as i said, someone can just invent a module for a server and receive commands over chat messages to the host jid

and then they bug me why they cant write messages to that jid

Not forbidden. But a server without such a module will likely just return an error if you do send something.

movim.eu returns "No available resource found"

what ever that means

ok so what im really asking is, is anyone aware here on usecases where humans have to "chat" with the host jid like its some user

> xmpp:pubsub.prosody.im

maybe the cheogram bot?

the host jid === JID without localpart?

yes, yourdomain.com

restricting that seems odd

how is it odd, i just told the use case which is not odd in my opinion

hm

or maybe im going wrong at this, can i depend on that server send info messages as type = headline?

so simpley not opening chats for that

could make sense

nor displaying it when a user opens a chat with the host jid

"status message" is a bit ambiguous tho

but yeah, some sort of system message

especially if it comes from your own domain

treat 'from has no localpart && (type == "headline" || type == "normal")' as status message ✏

O:-)

ninja

Opening a normal chat for a type=="chat" seems like a sensible thing tho

and having some way to open such a chat, but I'd understand if it's hidden away in some menu

https://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Chat/Instant-Messaging/cwtch.shtml

Somebody called their app Cwtch. Come and tell us to our face XMPP is hard to pronounce / remember

Apparently it's pronounced /kʊtʃ/ -- still easier than /ɛks ɛm piː piː/.

pep., I once named mine PSĜS, I’m not one to talk. o:)

I considered using japanese spelling for Renga, but decided to go for latin alphabet (mostly. Except the app icon)