jdev - 2022-02-22

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05:57:39 moparisthebest does anyone (clients or servers) do any... "detection" of whether you can properly resolve+verify DNSSEC ?
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07:27:07 flow moparisthebest, like simply resolve a well-known dns name which is guaranteed to be DNSSEC enabled?
07:27:40 moparisthebest flow, possibly, seems like maybe a bad SPOF though
07:27:56 flow n dns names then
07:28:22 moparisthebest other than domain names I own, any other such domains ?
07:28:25 jonas’ moparisthebest, what do you mean by "properly resolve+verify"?
07:28:38 flow moparisthebest, .de is DNSSEC enabled, probably other TLDs too
07:28:40 jonas’ moparisthebest, I recall there was some badxmpp.eu-like thing for DNSSEC
07:28:46 moparisthebest jonas’, I'm told various networks totally break when asked for DNSSEC
07:28:48 jonas’ the root zone is DNSSEC enabled
07:28:58 jonas’ you could just use that
07:29:02 jonas’ if the root zone is fried you're doomed anyway
07:29:16 moparisthebest good point
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07:30:26 moparisthebest my thought is that if I can detect if *handwave* this network is good for DNSSEC, I can resolve like normal, and if it's not, then DoH to cloudflare or google which will always work for DNSSEC
07:30:37 jonas’ DoT pls.
07:30:45 moparisthebest that way my resolver is always guaranteed to be able to do DNSSEC
07:30:47 jonas’ no need for HTTP overhead there.
07:31:00 moparisthebest yea sure, but same end result
07:31:42 flow ~~I wouldn't be so sure about the "always work", maybe some hotspots filter third party DNS providers?~~ ✎
07:31:53 flow I wouldn't be so sure about the "always work" part, maybe some hotspots filter third party DNS providers? ✏
07:32:11 moparisthebest well, that's what DoH is meant to work around right?
07:32:39 moparisthebest but yea, if I can't resolve with DNSSEC I'll just abort the whole thing rather than run crippled
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07:56:33 defanor Sounds like this may lead to a failure to connect even if the target host doesn't use DNSSEC anyway (and the user doesn't require DNSSEC): major DoH servers can be blocked by a network administrator or a government, or one may even try to chat in a local network, without Internet access.
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