jdev - 2022-02-22


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  42. moparisthebest does anyone (clients or servers) do any... "detection" of whether you can properly resolve+verify DNSSEC ?
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  59. flow moparisthebest, like simply resolve a well-known dns name which is guaranteed to be DNSSEC enabled?
  60. moparisthebest flow, possibly, seems like maybe a bad SPOF though
  61. flow n dns names then
  62. moparisthebest other than domain names I own, any other such domains ?
  63. jonas’ moparisthebest, what do you mean by "properly resolve+verify"?
  64. flow moparisthebest, .de is DNSSEC enabled, probably other TLDs too
  65. jonas’ moparisthebest, I recall there was some badxmpp.eu-like thing for DNSSEC
  66. moparisthebest jonas’, I'm told various networks totally break when asked for DNSSEC
  67. jonas’ the root zone is DNSSEC enabled
  68. jonas’ you could just use that
  69. jonas’ if the root zone is fried you're doomed anyway
  70. moparisthebest good point
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  74. moparisthebest my thought is that if I can detect if *handwave* this network is good for DNSSEC, I can resolve like normal, and if it's not, then DoH to cloudflare or google which will always work for DNSSEC
  75. jonas’ DoT pls.
  76. moparisthebest that way my resolver is always guaranteed to be able to do DNSSEC
  77. jonas’ no need for HTTP overhead there.
  78. moparisthebest yea sure, but same end result
  79. flow I wouldn't be so sure about the "always work", maybe some hotspots filter third party DNS providers?
  80. flow I wouldn't be so sure about the "always work" part, maybe some hotspots filter third party DNS providers?
  81. moparisthebest well, that's what DoH is meant to work around right?
  82. moparisthebest but yea, if I can't resolve with DNSSEC I'll just abort the whole thing rather than run crippled
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  90. defanor Sounds like this may lead to a failure to connect even if the target host doesn't use DNSSEC anyway (and the user doesn't require DNSSEC): major DoH servers can be blocked by a network administrator or a government, or one may even try to chat in a local network, without Internet access.
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