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moparisthebest
does anyone (clients or servers) do any... "detection" of whether you can properly resolve+verify DNSSEC ?
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flow
moparisthebest, like simply resolve a well-known dns name which is guaranteed to be DNSSEC enabled?
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moparisthebest
flow, possibly, seems like maybe a bad SPOF though
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flow
n dns names then
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moparisthebest
other than domain names I own, any other such domains ?
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jonas’
moparisthebest, what do you mean by "properly resolve+verify"?
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flow
moparisthebest, .de is DNSSEC enabled, probably other TLDs too
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jonas’
moparisthebest, I recall there was some badxmpp.eu-like thing for DNSSEC
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moparisthebest
jonas’, I'm told various networks totally break when asked for DNSSEC
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jonas’
the root zone is DNSSEC enabled
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jonas’
you could just use that
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jonas’
if the root zone is fried you're doomed anyway
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moparisthebest
good point
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moparisthebest
my thought is that if I can detect if *handwave* this network is good for DNSSEC, I can resolve like normal, and if it's not, then DoH to cloudflare or google which will always work for DNSSEC
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jonas’
DoT pls.
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moparisthebest
that way my resolver is always guaranteed to be able to do DNSSEC
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jonas’
no need for HTTP overhead there.
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moparisthebest
yea sure, but same end result
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flow
I wouldn't be so sure about the "always work", maybe some hotspots filter third party DNS providers? ✎
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flow
I wouldn't be so sure about the "always work" part, maybe some hotspots filter third party DNS providers? ✏
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moparisthebest
well, that's what DoH is meant to work around right?
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moparisthebest
but yea, if I can't resolve with DNSSEC I'll just abort the whole thing rather than run crippled
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defanor
Sounds like this may lead to a failure to connect even if the target host doesn't use DNSSEC anyway (and the user doesn't require DNSSEC): major DoH servers can be blocked by a network administrator or a government, or one may even try to chat in a local network, without Internet access.
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