jdev - 2022-04-26


  1. lovetox

    archiving preferences are broken

  2. lovetox

    movim set it per default to contact list

  3. lovetox

    means if someone writes me in a muc a PM, this is not saved to the archive

  4. lovetox

    if my client loses network connection, and in this time some user writes me

  5. lovetox

    server does not archive the messages ..

  6. lovetox

    so i never receive them, but the user also gets no error back

  7. lovetox

    that seems broken, although it has not really something to do with archiving preferences

  8. lovetox

    should the server not store the messages as offline messages if he sees with stream management that the messages were never acked?

  9. pep.

    (conflicting use-cases in an interoperable network, *surprise*)

  10. lovetox

    but really, archive preferences break syncing with multiple devices

  11. lovetox

    when people use it they think: Uh yeah i dont want to store these messages

  12. lovetox

    but in reality they choose: Uh i dont want to sync messages with my other devices anymore

  13. lovetox

    its even worse if server operators do the choosing for the users

  14. MattJ

    lovetox, I agree, I really regret adding those options

  15. MattJ

    Which is partly why I split them out of '313

  16. MattJ

    But a surprising number of clients already implement it

  17. Link Mauve

    How do these clients react if the 0441 toggles aren’t exposed?

  18. lovetox

    im not understanding the question Link Mauve

  19. lovetox

    As some server set defaults that are a none starter

  20. lovetox

    it would be foolish of clients not to expose this setting