jdev - 2022-04-27

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06:35:31 Nickname hello
06:35:45 Nickname hope you are ok
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09:31:58 Link Mauve lovetox, I was wondering if a hypothetically well-configured server didn’t even expose the footgun settings, would clients stop considering MAM as available or would it have no consequence?
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09:38:20 Zash block the iq-set with some policy error?
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09:43:10 Link Mauve I was thinking about moving the prefs handling into a different module eventually.
09:43:16 Link Mauve Perhaps a community one.
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11:10:32 Zash Separating archiving from the query protocol was also a thought.
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15:50:07 lovetox Link Mauve, prevs have nothing to do with considering if mam works
15:50:20 lovetox prevs are only queried by the user if he wants to change them
15:50:32 lovetox as a client i never look at them, i dont care if they exist or not
15:50:34 jonas’ s/prevs/prefs/?
15:50:44 lovetox yes
15:51:37 lovetox i mean maybe i should care, maybe i should warn the user that his server has set a policy that could lead to message loss
15:52:49 Zash There was talk about replacing it with a retention control instead of yes/no
15:53:13 Zash As in, "how long"
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15:54:10 lovetox not too much difference though
15:54:23 lovetox i still have to warn the user that he might experience message loss with too low retention
15:55:12 lovetox but of course dataretention policy would be a nice feature
15:55:34 lovetox someone should propose this for the archive pref xep
15:56:17 lovetox im just not sure if it is really necessary to have the "store nothing" case at all
15:56:30 lovetox like xmpp gives so much freedom, everybody can setup their own servers
15:56:36 lovetox you can use E2E encryption
15:56:48 lovetox there is relly much you can do if you want to secure your data
15:57:16 lovetox ~~better ways then to break message delivery with a "no store" policy~~ ✎
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15:57:43 lovetox better ways than to break message delivery with a "no store" policy ✏
15:58:17 lovetox you want to use the internet, but nobody should store anything for more than 2 seconds ...
15:58:24 lovetox seems unreasonable
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