jdev - 2022-07-26


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  186. Guus Has anyone ever gotten Tsung test running with XMPP over websockets? I can't get it to send the rfc7395-mandated 'open' replacement for the 'stream' element.
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  331. lovetox how do lib devs handle presence with no type, regarding of routing, attaching stanza handlers
  332. lovetox how does the API look for a client, to connect to a "no type attr" stanza
  333. lovetox because not specificing a type, means for me, i want all presences, so no type filtering
  334. flow lovetox, smakc defaults to type available
  335. flow https://github.com/igniterealtime/Smack/blob/master/smack-core/src/main/java/org/jivesoftware/smack/packet/Presence.java#L68
  336. lovetox so you invent a type
  337. flow pretty sure it wasn't me
  338. lovetox this was also my idea ..
  339. lovetox its really again weird that this is not consistnet, messages have real default for type
  340. lovetox presence not
  341. flow think of it as: the default, if not explicitly set, is available
  342. lovetox its not a problem to understand it, its simply bad design
  343. flow I think it's not the worst designed parts of XMPP, but yes, it is strange that there is no explicit 'available' type
  344. lovetox its not even in the top 10 :D
  345. flow that is inconsistent and does not follow other XMPP design patterns where we have, the default value of the attribute 'bar' is 'foo' if not set (but you may also send bar=foo if you want)
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  347. flow to be frank, if you hadn't pointed out that 'available' does not appear in the XML schema for presence, I wouldn't be able to tell
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  349. lovetox its problematic for the way i designed the lib, my lib does first parse attributes, tag names, namepspaces, creates a handler chain, and sends the stanza then to all these handlers
  350. lovetox the lib itself uses handlers to contruct then some object that abstructs the xml away for the client
  351. lovetox but now i have to special case the attribute parsing bevor i contruct the handler chain, because my own lib cannot register a handler for "available"
  352. lovetox though if i think about it
  353. lovetox i do the same for messages anyway
  354. lovetox ah ..
  355. lovetox the difference would be while i insert a type=normal and i dont make the stanza with that move invalid
  356. lovetox i now need to insert a type=availalbe into the xml ..
  357. lovetox rather ugly
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  538. nav It's not something that I had thought about until now, but one wants to be careful trying to equate JIDs with identities (as in, concrete users), because that is not necessarily the case.
  539. nav It's the same as email. If your email address gets reused, the new user will have access to lots of stuff where you used your email as an ID (unless 2FA, etc.) Same with JIDs and XEP-0077 registrations (unless password / 2FA / etc.)
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  541. nav Server owners, especially those who recycle unused JIDs, would do well to disallow JID reuse.
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  543. nav I don't recall if servers already offer an out of the box solution for that.
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  551. nav Or maybe servers could provide a unique key for each registration that could be discovered via XEP-0030?
  552. nav So that you can tell if someone recycles a JID.
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  561. Zash mod_tombstones?
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  629. nav Zash: 👍👍
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  641. Zash So, does anything support XEP-0440 and RFC 9266 ?
  642. Zash Sam, https://hg.prosody.im/trunk/rev/29685403be32 ;)
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  650. Sam Wow, the RFC was only published a few hours ago, that was fast!
  651. Zash Found the first bug!
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  661. Sam I'll write some integration tests after work
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