jdev - 2022-10-14

is libstrophe for c considered reasonably current?

请问有会中文的吗？

deimos: check what profanity is using

I seem to recall it was using libstrophe and is actively developed

> 请问有会中文的吗？ Does someone speak Chinese btw? Even though they're gone now

That was the question.

(Thanks, Google)

Yeah that's why I asked

I didn't especially want to know what they said, I was more curious if someone could answer them

> deimos: check what profanity is using ok, i don't see libstrophe there, but I might have missed it

generally, we're standardizing on xmpp/mqtt at work, and i'm soon to publish my julia lib for xmpp, which is a wrapper around libstrophe

the goal is to get the julia xmpp lib accepted into juliahub so it can be generally used by the community

So what do you guys think regarding the ejabberd news? https://www.process-one.net/blog/matrix-protocol-added-to-ejabberd/ (Sorry if this was discussed in another room I'm not a member of)

selurvedu: hard to say much with no experience of it, and it's not currently open-source, so... 🙂

Ultimately, there are already XMPP<>Matrix bridges, so it doesn't change much for the network

Unless it's significantly better, which would be great

Yes, we have to wait until they release it to the public, but an announcement is intriguing still :)

MattJ, bridge is one thing, you need to host a separate service or use a third-party one, and bridges lack some features and aren't always reliable, and a sever with multiple protocols is another. It won't let the XMPP users from other servers reach Matrix, unlike a bridge. Knowing how ejabberd performs in general, I presume it would be a better choice. ✏

There is no theoretical reason for bridges to not be reliable, is there?

nicoco_, have you ever used bifrost at matrix.org? I guess you haven't :)

The aria-net.org fork is quite stable, but it is not the "officially recommended" one, and it did not exist from the beginning.

I’m using aria-net for some matrix rooms and it’s fine - but there have been some downtime indeed. Also it seems to fire a lot of useless rename events, but I suspect this is some of my xmpp clients not respecting the bookmarked nickname and doing their own thing.

nah, it's the bridge, I think

it doesn't handle the join with a nickname as a single event, so first you join with nick==jid localpart, then you get renamed

Even without the renames I got complaints from Matrix users about constant join/parts

selurvedu: Ejabberd is also a bridge so no difference there with aria net

But its ontegrated so thats a plus of course

They expect the users to join and remain there, like e.g. irc bouncers work, but bifrost is not a bouncer, and join-parts are just how XMPP works

I wonder if ejabberd would use permanent presence for matrix rooms to avoid that, or keep this behaviour

MSavoritias (fae,ve), well, yes, but it's not a separate program, it's still the same server (at least this is what I expect knowing it supports MQTT), and, unlike bridges, it won't let non-local jids to reach the matrix network.

In the rest it mostly the same, yes.