jdev - 2022-10-23

just me or very few projects have implemented XEP-0009

It's not very common these days. RPC in general has fallen out of favour as an API model.

Generic RPC like that at least. Kinda redundant when <iq> is RPC-ish enough by itself, and then we have XEP-0050+XEP-0004

Can someone point me to the spec where it says what kind of characters can't be in a MUC nick/JID resourcepart? I can't seem to find any specifics besides "probably everything UTF-8"

adx, it can be found via https://xmpp.org/extensions/

> RFC 7622 XMPP Address Format

Except that's not the one in use, but the previous one

So, good luck on your RFC adventure ;)

s/the previous/a previous/

It might vary by implementation.

I would recommend preparing a place under your desk to cry if you're delving into these issues.

yeah, that's what i've been browsing, but more of a deep dive needed apparently

> I would recommend preparing a place under your desk to cry if you're delving into these issues. oh boy, love me some lonely nights

So https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6122 is probably the safe thing to look at until PRECIS gets more widely implemented. Then there's https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7700 that's specifically for nicknames.

does anyone in code use something different then "jid" for jids?

like it means jabberid, but i guess we want to get rid of the jabber name? and i wondered even when i got rid of it in the UI

the whole code is still litered with jabber here and jabber there

but jid is also so nice and short as var name and ver descriptive, like every dev ever who reads that will exactly know what this is

xmpp_address is quite long, addr could mean a lot of other things

`sed -i -e 's/jid/xid/g'`? :p

xid.. hah, pep. was faster

xid :D

i didnt think of that

was going for xaddr

but ok beside the fun, does actually anyone use this in code?

or will i be the only lost soul :D

Nah we use Jid here (slix, poezio, xmpp-rs)

In prosody there's a few cases like `uploader` that holds a JID

or `user_bare` which holds ... a bare JID

lovetox, Jappix and Movim both went for xid in their code IIRC, but I find it a bit weird since so much documentation is about JID.

By now it’s became a proper noun, and not about Jabber any longer.

pep. Global changes with sed are so dangerous!

lovetox Rename gajim to gaxim when?

debacle, in a repository it's fine, you can see your changes as unstaged :)

but it is so easy to miss an unintended change, if there are too many

CI and tests will catch it right? :P

A bit of optimism

And most of all, your compiler!

#InTheCompilerWeTrust

> but it is so easy to miss an unintended change, if there are too many Not in a good language, thanks Rust