jdev - 2023-01-30

(cross-post from xsf@) Anyone attending FOSDEM from an open-source XMPP project that isn't Dino or Libervia? I just want to make sure I haven't missed anyone out :)

Hi, yes I will.

Which project(s) should I list? :)

I only have one piece of A4... :P

:D

Hmm, maybe xmpp-rs and poezio?

And perhaps slixmpp?

👍

> I only have one piece of A4... :P Printers can do pretty small fonts these days.

42% of the projects now in my list are Link Mauve

^^'

so 58% are missing out on link!!!

so if I onboard Link Mauve to aioxmpp, aioxmpp is at FOSDEM?

Great plan

sonny, wanna add xmpp.js as well?

Where does it go?

sonny, I mean, would you want to advertise it on the flyer at FOSDEM?

Ha yes feel free 👍

I'll definitely be around

jonas’, hey sorry I've poked you elsewhere a few days ago, whenever you have time can we have a look at Joinjabber logos on s.j.n? :)

pep.: did you poke support@?

mail? no, you directly

I'm happy to announce that I've got a new grant to work on A/V call and desktop sharing implementation in Libervia. I'll make a blog post when I'll found some time (I dunno when as I'm preparing summit/FOSDEM right now).

I'll do the implementation on web, desktop and CLI frontend.

https://nlnet.nl/project/Libervia-AV/

I'll find*

congrats!

thanks. I'm really happy, that was one of the big missing feature in Libervia. Once that done I'll work on polishing everything, and maybe do a Windows port. But it will take probably the whole year to be at this point.

goffi, that's the which nlnet session?

Ah assure

goffi: fully understand if you don't know yet, but if you do, will it work in firefox too or only the chrome based browsers?

moparisthebest: being a firefox use, I hope to make it run in both. But A/V is a really complicated topic, and I don't know yet which dragons and snakes I'll cross.

it was actually super hard to make an estimation on this topic, I hope that I'm not too far off the mark

I'm basing this question mainly on the bad things refusing to run or running in degraded mode on Firefox, like Microsoft teams for instance

But good to know, and good luck on it :)

thank, I guess I'll need it, the work involved is less clear to me now that when I've started working on AP gateway. A/V is a really complicated thing.

Both Firefox and Chrome implement WebRTC. I know they're not completely identical, but I'd be surprised if basic calling didn't just work. Works in Firefox in Movim, right?

I’ve also been using Jitsi Meet in Firefox for years (three).

It's been over a year so I don't remember details but I know Microsoft teams had a very degraded experience in firefox, maybe someone who still has access could check

At first the stable version didn’t support some features they used, like simulcast, but that’s been fixed for years (three).

iirc it was missing at least camera backgrounds and desktop sharing? Could be wrong

moparisthebest, Microsoft favouring their own browser over the concurrence is certainly impossible!

Very likely even :)

If you search "Firefox" from edge you get a full page ad telling you why you should stay on edge

Can't get more egregious than that without just blocking the install

I think that for multi-party at some point firefox was missing something, it was working but degraded (I know it's very vague, but details can certainly be found easily on the web).

for multi-party encryption also, there is a note in jitsi FAQ that it's working only with Chrome/Chromium