jdev - 2023-09-21

IIRC yes for Gajim. That said, people have laptops too.

No gajim does not

shocked dino doesn't, seeing as they are making attempts to target linux mobile (or i got the impression of that)

i would be suprised if its a explicit goal of the project to target phones

i mean the homepage says on its landing page in the first sentence

> Dino is a modern open-source chat client for the desktop.

explicit? no, hence "making attempts" due to what ive seen on the bugtracker

statements of the form "I'm chocked <software developed by volonteers> doesn't support <some feature>" isn't very constructive

it was an observation not a complaint Zash and i suggest you stop misconstruing what i say because this is the second time youve done that

lot of people riding my ass today i dont want you to be the next

if i have to remind you, *i speak as a developer*

so stop patronising me, thanks

in fact not only is it the second time you misconstrued, you did it in precisely the same way: assuming i put any additional responsibility upon foss devs with anything i say

so yeah im tired of you treating me like a child

opal, this seems like a overreaction, Zash just said sentence of these form are not very constructive

he was 100% clear about how he interpreted my message and my reply was 100% clear about how i take to that in kind.

and if you think about it, using the word "shocked" certainly adds a lot of emotion into that sentence

yeah im genuinely surprised but it wasnt because i was begging developers of a client i dont even use, to add CSI

maybe its a language barrier thing

can i not be emotive? this aint allowed?

maybe

but shocked, is different from suprised

shocked conveys that something bad has happend

suprised, does not do that

in that sense i would see how someone could believe that you thought dino did not the job you expected it to do

lovetox, to give context: anything that the core gnome/gtk project, poettering, mozilla... anyone i have a low opinion of already, i am not shocked by any of *their* lack of support for anything or their awful decisions, i'm simply disappointed

you'll see me be disappointed if i direct my distaste at any developers

not shocked

dino is trying, so i dont have a strong voice at all there regardless of my word choice

hope that clears it up

just saying, we all need to interpret words here, and its even harder if there is a language barrier, i doubt Zash wanted to treat you as a child, rather i believe he felt he needs to defend the dino developers in some way, because of the word choice :) So lets file this under miscommunication.

fair enough i just hope to god this pattern doesnt repeat

i should have enough latitude and respect shown to me, to at least give me the benefit of the doubt enough to ask what i truly intended before going immediately to "what you said isnt constructive"

and with that im done