jdev - 2023-09-25

#channel%irc.server.org@irc-component.xmppserver.org -> MUC irc.server.org@irc-component.xmppserver.org -> What is this?!? irc-component.xmppserver.org -> Actual Gateway

lovetox, the middle-thing talks to the IRC server itself (via normal 1:1 messages, type="chat")

the middle thing is something that desperately wishes it were a muc service, but can't be because it's not a bare domain

yes, i know what the function of this is, but did we come to a conclusion how such a thing should announce itself in disco info

would it have a type=gateway?

i think last time we determined its not a MUC service

and should not announce itself that way

right

I don't know that it's really a gateway either, but maybe it is

it at least wouldn't be definitely wrong for it to say it is a gateway

yeah i guess the problem was that it thinks its a muc service

right. and it's vaguely similar to one but definitely isn't one

lovetox, I'd call it a "translator" or "adaptor" if you just need a name; though I presume it should be a component, so should clients be interacting with it?

Group chat service? Almost MUC but not?

Tree node

theTedd, yes you need to interact with it, its the irc server console, you need to register nickname, login etc.

right, so essentially it is the "IRC Service" and then you join channels as MUCs through it

https://xmpp.org/registrar/disco-categories.html

nothing really fits

its not an account, its not a client, its not a component if the definiton is right on that site ✏

> The "component" category consists of services that are internal to server implementations and not normally exposed outside a server.

best fit would probably in category "server"

<identity category='server' type='irc'/>

I would support adding a disco info for gateways. i would like for gateways to identify themselves

how hard would it be to to add it to the disco categories?

MSavoritias (fae,ve): gateway is already an allowed category

https://xmpp.org/registrar/disco-categories.html#gateway

conference.irc is explicitly mentioned, but if that's used for channels themselves.. then I could agree with server.irc, or maybe proxy.irc is more accurate

> MSavoritias (fae,ve): gateway is already an allowed category Hmm. Does biboumi and the matrix gateway anounce themselves as such? ↺

yes

Well this could make an agument i had in another room a while back more clear. Thank you 😃